Hi Howard,

As an example, in one application we had URLs from an application
outside of Tapestry that included parameters (like state=WA) in the
URL that we'd pick off in onActivate to start the Tapestry application
with certain defaults preset for that request.

mrg


On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hls...@gmail.com> wrote:
> True, but that will only work on simple pages (that have no callbacks
> to themselves, such as ActionLinks or Forms) ... unless you use the
> activate event to store page stage into the session, which kind of
> undermines the whole point of activate/passivate.  But I could be
> wrong ... tell us about your use case ...
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 5:26 AM, Michael Gentry <mgen...@masslight.net> wrote:
>> Hi Les,
>>
>> Thanks for sharing!
>>
>> One comment, though, is you actually can have onActivate without
>> onPassivate.  I've done this many times.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> mrg
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 2:54 PM, robert baker <les.baker1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I've been in Tapestry training for the past week, have really enjoyed
>>> it, and picked up some useful stuff along the way (if you've been
>>> seeing "Clemson University" run across the tweet box, that was
>>> connected with us).  Mr. Lewis-Ship really gave a broad and deep
>>> overview of how Tapestry works (thank you!), and I thought I would
>>> share some of the things I personally got out of it in hopes it would
>>> help someone else learning the framework.
>>>
>>>
>>> * Activation and passivation in Tapestry work in concert -- can't have
>>> one w/o the other.
>>>  - If you populate an instance variable on the page in onActivate,
>>> return it back in onPassivate
>>>  - PageLink asks for activation context using onPassivate if you
>>> don't supply context parameter
>>>  - May have to @InjectPage and supply what gets passivated beforehand
>>> in some cases.
>>>
>>> * Play around with page URLs and see what happens
>>>  - What happens if you don't supply any activation context?
>>>  - What happens if the activation context is garbage?
>>>  - What happens if the activation context points to something you
>>> shouldn't be able to access?
>>>
>>> * Do work in baby steps -- just try to get *something* visible and
>>> work from there.
>>>  - Components should default as much as possible to aid this process.
>>>
>>> * JavaScript is very sensitive about syntax and loose about semantics
>>> -- watching Firebug debugger religiously during development of
>>> non-trivial JS almost a must.
>>>  - Any client-side IDs need to be passed down to client, or use
>>> well-known class names on the client.
>>>
>>> * Ajax: All about what happens when, and breaking up responsibility
>>> between server and client.
>>>  - Treat URLs going down to the client as immutable.
>>>  - Can "bake in" data into the URL that will be passed back up as a
>>> parameter on the handling method server-side using "context" parameter
>>> on *Link, Form, ProgressiveDisplay components.
>>>  - Keeping that in mind, what if you want to make an AJAX request
>>> with dynamic number of parameters and/or with values not known at
>>> render-time?  Use "parameters" object parameter on
>>> Tapestry.ajaxRequest() to add query parameters to the AJAX request.
>>>
>>> * If you're banging your head against the framework, it's okay to step
>>> down to raw elements and do things manually.
>>>  - Request service (and @RequestParameter on method parameters) and
>>> template property expansions (e.g. ${blah}) a good bridge between page
>>> class and raw elements (prop expands for render-time, request parms
>>> for submit-time).
>>>
>>> * Whatever tools you use, know them inside-out.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Les Baker
>>>
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