On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Adam Zimowski <zimowsk...@gmail.com> wrote: > Excuse me asking, but with class reloading disabled in production, > template reloading still works, correct? > > My designer who mostly does TML's expects templates be reloadable in > production. >
Well, then, you're screwed in Tapestry 5.3 :-) Looks like we'll probably have to introduce a new symbol to allow this to be enabled in production. But I think the vast majority of deployments will not need this (and may like the increased throughput and lowered memory utilization). > Adam > > PS. > > On a side note, what about a hybrid switch? Like component class > reloading but disable service reloading? > > > On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hls...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Igor Drobiazko >> <igor.drobia...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> I never used live reloading in production, but it might be a cool marketing >>> weapon. We could promote it as seomthing similar to ZeroTurnaround's >>> LiveRebel: >>> >>> http://www.zeroturnaround.com/liverebel/ >>> >>> Imagine a new slogan on Tapestry's webpage: "With Tapestry you can roll out >>> and roll back changes to live applications instantly - without Downtime" >> >> I don't like to over-promise. Live reloading has some limitations in >> terms of reloading of service layer objects. I think having a seamless >> redeploy model is for the application servers to handle, not the >> framework. >> >> Basically, in production, you want to hype "fast and stable". In >> development you want to hype, "agile and testable." >> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hls...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Out of curiosity ... does anyone out there rely on live class >>>> (template, message catalog, whatever) reloading in their live, >>>> production application? Now, normally, I'd think not, because the >>>> deployed app will be packaged in a WAR and the unit of redeployment is >>>> the entire WAR ... but I suppose some people could be using the >>>> "exploded WAR" format, which would allow classes and templates to be >>>> updated while the application runs. >>>> >>>> Live reloading is a feature that was originally intended for >>>> development only; Tapestry 5.2 supports live reloading in the live >>>> application, but as of yesterday, Tapestry 5.3 does NOT. I'm hoping to >>>> see some improvements in throughput and a reduction in memory >>>> utilization in production applications ... but it's not too late to >>>> shift things so that 5.3 can support production reloading as well. >>>> I'd prefer not to, however. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Howard M. Lewis Ship >>>> >>>> Creator of Apache Tapestry >>>> >>>> The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to >>>> learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast! >>>> >>>> (971) 678-5210 >>>> http://howardlewisship.com >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Igor Drobiazko >>> http://tapestry5.de >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Howard M. Lewis Ship >> >> Creator of Apache Tapestry >> >> The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to >> learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast! >> >> (971) 678-5210 >> http://howardlewisship.com >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > > -- Howard M. Lewis Ship Creator of Apache Tapestry The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast! (971) 678-5210 http://howardlewisship.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
