I was recently thinking about this but from another direction - what if we
have a heavy page full of forms and almost every one of the tapestry-core
components and we render and store (in svn) the outcome of its rendering
both in production and in development mode.
That way we'd end up with many files of the form
page-dev-5.0.11.html
page-prod-5.0.11.html
page-prod-5.2.2.html
page-dev-5.2.4.html
page-prod-5.2.4.html
e.t.c
and a simple diff between any of those will show important info to the user
and to the devs
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 22:09, Howard Lewis Ship <hls...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It was simply the case that the id wasn't needed, because the label could be
> located as previously outlined.
>
> Rather than have an endless number of switches to set, I think we may need a
> global compatibility symbol ("tapestry.compatibility"), and maybe a
> mechanism for turning that into a boolean at the point of injection. The
> values for the symbol would be "5.1", "5.2" "5.3", etc.
>
> The quickstart archetype should set the symbol in the generated AppModule.
> In this way, users on upgrade could conciously change the compatibility
> mode.
>
> We would want to document, exhaustively, what is enabled or disabled based
> on the symbol.
>
> This isn't a total solution to backwards compatibility, and not everything
> could be handled this way, but it would be a good start.
>
> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Josh Canfield <joshcanfi...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hmm...
>>
>> The id needs to be put back, but before we add a symbol to allow it to
>> be optionally removed I'd like to make sure that Howard (and anyone
>> else) really needed it removed and it wasn't just some house cleaning.
>> I imagine if it was really a number of bytes issue then more than just
>> the label could be optimized and a markup filter like Robert suggested
>> is more appropriate...
>>
>> Josh
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Robert Zeigler <robe...@scazdl.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Dec 17, 2010, at 12/1712:53 PM , Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Fri, 17 Dec 2010 16:35:43 -0200, Robert Zeigler <robe...@scazdl.org>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Just to clarify, I hope that by "true" you mean that id generation is
>> turned /on/ by default. :)
>> >>
>> >> Your hope isn't in vain. :) true = on in this case.
>> >>
>> >>> warnings as time allowed. The important thing is that even with
>> deprecated methods, the old /behavior/ was preserved. It's a policy we
>> should adhere to more in Tapestry. What users need /most/ from the
>> framework is dependable behavior; in large part, they need that more than
>> the few bytes of bandwidth saved by removing the id from the label
>> component.
>> >>
>> >> Agreed. I guess most of the disrupting changes were just honest
>> mistakes. It's kinda hard to foresee of all the consequence of a change,
>> specially when most of the users (the developers using Tapestry) are not in
>> your team.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Fair enough.
>> >
>> > Robert
>> >
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