I agree with Tom. I think the linked comment thread is more like what you would 
expect from kiddy console flame war. If you don't like something why put effort 
into writing about how you don't like it? I would never get anything done ... 
If someone was seriously concerned about people sinking time and effort into 
learning a failed framework surely they would provide some actual arguments.

I'm using tapestry for an intranet app with a few hundred users so it wouldn't 
count as important to some. It is important to me though, because I am 
responsible and want to deliever a good application. I have doubted my 
descision to use T5 sometimes (usually not because of technical issues) and 
other times I've felt almost estatic about it (for example when I successfully 
contributed a custom block to the beanedit component). About every year or so I 
do the web-framework round, trying to find out what's new etc and when this 
current project came along T5 was the only one I found "worthy" of spending any 
time with because it respects the time I spend. Most other frameworks don't 
work for me because I will not write any XML (beyond web.xml :) and I will not 
put up with having to expressing the same thing three slightly different ways.

Kind Regards, Wulf


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Tom van Dijk [mailto:t...@tvandijk.nl] 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. Dezember 2010 13:06
An: users@tapestry.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Discussion

I have problems taking someone seriously who bases his argumentation on 
the looks of one of the developers and on exaggerated (indicator of bad 
reasoning) vague claims (bad reasoning) of many (bad reasoning, come up 
with better statistics) experiences. I would rather see compelling 
arguments against Tapestry that we could counter by improving the 
product, than criticism that would only be resolved by buying Howard a 
new haircut, which really wouldn't improve his coding or his vision of 
Tapestry.

Op 21-12-2010 11:48, George Banus schreef:
> Hi,
>
> I am a newbie to Tapestry and while googling to learn more about tapestry, I
> found this discussion going on at
> http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=61537. Some of the
> comments look very disappointing.
> Is Tapestry really used for serious projects?
>
> George
>


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