Robert,

You need to be a Tapestry evangelist as well. Remember, Howard wants to make
money- he wants to strike it rich. Please co-operate to make his dream come
true.  Don't be a free loader, man!

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Robert Zeigler <robe...@scazdl.org> wrote:

> I like to think that's because the Tapestry users are using Tapestry to be
> productive, instead of just talking about it making them productive.  ;)
>  But we could all certainly step our publicity up a bit.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Robert
>
>
> On Dec 22, 2009, at 12/221:21 PM , Howard Lewis Ship wrote:
>
>  Exactly ... I have yet to figure out why the Tapestry community as a
>> whole is somewhat passive whereas other communities (such as Wicket
>> and Rails) are extremely vocal. Out in the larger world, the best
>> impression of Tapestry comes not from its creators, but from its
>> users, and the users do not talk enough about Tapestry outside of
>> these mailing lists.  More blogging, please!
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Vangel V. Ajanovski <a...@ii.edu.mk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 22.12.2009 17:41, Alfonso Quiroga wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree with Thiago, but I've never used Wicket. I've used tapestry5
>>>> and I really like it. Both frameworks are component-based, maybe some
>>>> day I'll try wicket. But if tap5 works for me... why do I have to
>>>> discuss in server-side? I prefer to share my solutions and workarounds
>>>> in this list, where there are people really interested in T5.
>>>>
>>>>  I agree on the discussions.
>>>
>>> I think that (if needed) best promotion of Tapestry would be if everyone
>>> that is actually using it (and liking it) created a post somewhere or
>>> blogged about the reasons for choosing Tapestry and preferable to link
>>> such pages from the central documentation.
>>>
>>> The thing is that people who are new to all this, have to look somewhere
>>> and decide which technology to choose. There are not many comparisons
>>> where Tapestry is mentioned and most of them are not really favourable
>>> and mainly point out that Tapestry is too hard to learn.
>>> ... It is not.
>>>
>>> I was in this position two years ago, I had experience with Oracle Web
>>> PL/SQL and APEX, JSP, JSF, ASP and PHP and I am creating web sites from
>>> 1996 and I had the responsibility to choose something better. Even with
>>> such experience and even I was ready to learn from scratch it was hard
>>> to choose the technology for the next task. I decided to start with
>>> Tapestry bacause it was supposedly the hardest :)...
>>> .... It was not and it solved many problems I had with the others.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Howard M. Lewis Ship
>>
>> Creator of Apache Tapestry
>>
>> The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to
>> learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast!
>>
>> (971) 678-5210
>> http://howardlewisship.com
>>
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