Hi Howard ** *"I'm committed to Tapestry even beyond what it represents as a revenue stream. I expect to see more releases like 5.1 ... compatible, with new features that seamlessly plug into existing applications. More importantly, I want to make the documentation better (in book form, and online)."*
Perfect, thank you. Regards Steve On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hls...@gmail.com>wrote: > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Steve Cowx <steve.c...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Howard, All > > > > The following sound bites seem to paint a pretty bleak future for > Tapestry. > > > > > Anything but! > > > > > > 1) "Interestingly, I was busy writing Clojure code almost continuously in > > the back row of other speaker's sessions .....I've been busy adapting the > > concept of parameter destructuring to pulling data out of the request > path > > and query parameters." - HLS, today. Writing what sounds like the > > groundwork for a new web application framework, presumably better than > > Tapestry. > > > > 2) "I'm using my improved freedom to pursue other important technologies > * > > beyond* Tapestry, such as Clojure, Cappuccino, and CouchDB" - HLS, August > > 27 > > > > Despite what appears to be a healthy community, a solid code base and set > > of > > hard working committers I am still inclined to believe that the driving > > force behind the innovation in Tapestry is still you Howard. In my mind > > your move to different technologies signifies a loss of faith in Java and > > implies a sense of frustration with the limits of what is possible with > T5. > > > > Can anyone set my mind at ease with some real facts about the future of > > Tapestry? I have invested a year or more in learning the framework and > > applying what I know to creating a web application with it but as a > > developer I need to know that my code won't just be another rewrite > waiting > > to happen. > > > > Several years ago I posted something about Ruby and there was a flurry of > posts: "Is Howard > abandoning Java?" Guess what ... I didn't. > > I'm committed to Tapestry even beyond what it represents as a revenue > stream. I expect to see more > releases like 5.1 ... compatible, with new features that seamlessly plug > into existing applications. > More importantly, I want to make the documentation better (in book form, > and > online). > > In fact, if I never committed another line of code to Tapestry but JUST > wrote a definitive book on it, > that would do more to extend the life and acceptance of Tapestry than > anything else > I could possibly do! > > > > > > The alternative, JSF, may be clunky but at least I can be certain that it > > will be around and evolving in 5 years time. > > > > Yes, they may have gotten through one round of improvement by then :-) > > > > > > Regards > > > > Steve > > > > Steve, > > I'm afraid you misunderstand how innovation occurs ... it doesn't happen by > locking someone in a basement > so they can focus on only one thing. Innovation comes from learning > different ideas, different languages, > different technologies and expanding your mind around them. > > The Pragmatic Programmers emphasize learning a new language every year and > I > like to learn a new technology more often than that. > > Many of the innovations you see in Tapestry are ideas that came from other > areas, in other guises. > > So don't worry, I'm going to have my fingers in a few different pies ... > and > I'm going to learn new things and adapt them back into Tapestry. That's how > I've been working for > 20+ years now. > > > -- > Howard M. Lewis Ship > > Creator of Apache Tapestry > > The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to > learn > how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast! > > (971) 678-5210 > http://howardlewisship.com > -- Kind regards Stephen Cowx +44 (0) 7748 490 323 +44 (0) 1306 740 523
