Hugo, the only (unrelated to T5) problem i have in such a setup is when it's a multiproject pom - in that case mvn tomcat:run uses the installed artifacts of each subproject, meaning that compiling from IDE and rerunning mvn tomcat:run wont work - how are you dealing with such a case?
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Hugo Palma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, i'm a very happy IntelliJ user :o) > My dev environment couldn't be simpler: > > - I use maven for building and i run my app by just typing "mvn tomcat:run" > in the console. > - Whenever i change a class of template i just press the build button in > IntelliJ and see the changes immediatly on the running tomcat (without > reloading the context). > > I don't even have to worry about building an exploded structure for tomcat. > The plugin uses the classes right from the build directory of maven. That's > why nothing more than a simple build in IntelliJ (or any other IDE) causes > the live class reload. > > > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Kalle Korhonen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> Tomcat doesn't have a "unhappy tendency to copy resources to a secondary >> location", it just depends on how you set it up. >> >> Hugo, are you using sysdeo's Tomcat plugin for Eclipse in development? I >> haven't tried but what I've read about T5's class reloading, I think live >> class reloading should work with it without any issues, just need to >> disable >> JVM hot code swapping (with which I've been enjoying live class reloading >> in >> T4 development for years). >> >> Kalle >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Howard Lewis Ship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> > There are certainly some limitations with LCR imposed by the different >> > servlet container implementations; the ability to scan the classpath >> > for class files within packages, and to resolve a loaded class to a >> > URL is going far beyond whats in the servlet spec. >> > >> > Jetty is sensible; the class files are easy to find, the class loaders >> > make sense, the URLs are standard jar: URLs. >> > >> > Tomcat works differently, with an unhappy tendency to copy resources >> > to a secondary location once, use its own format URLs for those >> > resources, and not copy changes to the real file over the the >> > secondary location. >> > >> > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Peter Stavrinides >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > The truth is LCR wont work correctly with vanilla Tomcat (as mentioned >> by >> > others the maven plugin for Tomcat may work, but personally I had to >> fiddle >> > with it to get it working... it was sketchy in tandem with non Tapestry >> > filters and anything else out of the ordinary), whereas jetty just works. >> > > >> > > Web tools platform Tomcat (no maven plugin) picks up changes and does a >> > partial restart, which is far from ideal because: >> > > a) The session is lost >> > > b) Its pretty slow! In a sizable application with other j2ee modules >> > attached this is very noticeable, whereas the jetty implementation works >> > instantly >> > > >> > > Some of our developers use Tomcat because we have a requirement to work >> > with multiple modules from source (not jars)... yes, there is probably a >> way >> > to do this better with maven and the jetty plugin, but I spent hours >> trying >> > and failed to configure it. Recently I found: >> > http://maven.apache.org/maven-1.x/using/multiproject.html, but haven't >> had >> > a chance to look more closely into this. It would be fantastic if there >> was >> > more detail on how to configure/tweak enterprise tapestry projects for >> > maven. I am not sure about Netbeans, but in eclipse, LCR can fail if your >> > build path is not set correctly, and the exact configuration may differ >> > between maven plugin versions and eclipse versions. >> > > >> > > cheers >> > > Peter >> > > >> > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: "Hugo Palma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > To: "Tapestry users" <users@tapestry.apache.org>, "Alex Kotchnev" < >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > Sent: Thursday, 20 November, 2008 5:05:51 PM GMT +02:00 Athens, Beirut, >> > Bucharest, Istanbul >> > > Subject: Re: Live class reloading problems >> > > >> > > I would say that this problems with LCR should be dealt with case by >> > case. >> > > I'm sure that "LCR only works on Jetty" is false because i have it >> > working >> > > in tomcat with no additional configuration. It just worked. >> > > >> > > That's not to say there aren't any problems or limitations with the LCR >> > > implementation, i'm sure there are. But i think the way to go would be >> > for >> > > everyone to whom LCR doesn't work as expected and documented to create >> an >> > > issue describing the exact environment they're executing on and the >> > > community will take it from there. >> > > >> > > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Alex Kotchnev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > wrote: >> > > >> > >> This is awkward.. if live class reloading (LCR) doesn't work on >> Tomcat, >> > and >> > >> Glassfish, because JBoss uses Tomcat under the covers, I'd guess that >> it >> > >> doesn't work on JBoss either. Although I haven't used webLogic or >> > Websphere, >> > >> I can't make an intelligent guess on whether it works there or not.. >> But >> > it >> > >> seems very misleading to state in the docs that T5 has LCR, if it >> > doesn't >> > >> work with probably 50%+ of the java app servers/servlet containers (I >> > guess >> > >> that Tomcat, Jboss, and glassfish cover probably 75%+ of java web app >> > >> developers). If Tomcat had a miniscule market share, then one could be >> > >> justified in saying 'T5 works, Tomcat is broken', however w/ things >> > being as >> > >> I described the majority of deployed T5 apps don't support LCR. >> > >> >> > >> Now, if Jetty is the only setup that works reliably (that is LCR w/o >> > having >> > >> to redeploy), wouldn't it serve everyone best to clearly state that in >> > the >> > >> docs? That is, the docs should explicitly describe that this is a >> > special >> > >> setup for development purposes that works only w/ Jetty (or at least >> > clearly >> > >> state that it doesn't work w Tomcat, Glassfish, Jboss, etc)? I >> > understand >> > >> that it is abit unfair to T5 as it was intentionally designed to >> support >> > >> LCR; however the docs are most useful when they describe things >> > accurately . >> > >> >> > >> What does everyone think? Should I file a jira issue for this? >> > >> >> > >> cheers, >> > >> >> > >> Alex Kotchnev >> > >> >> > >> - original message - >> > >> Subject: Re: Live class reloading problems >> > >> From: "Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >> Date: 11/20/2008 10:50 >> > >> >> > >> Em Thu, 20 Nov 2008 01:27:18 -0300, akochnev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >> escreveu: >> > >> >> > >> > I'm running into some trouble w/ the live class reloading feature >> (the >> > >> > template reloading works fine), tested both on Tomcat 6 , Glassfish >> 3 >> > >> > Prelude, and Glassfish V2 (all three servers support exploded war >> > >> > deployment). >> > >> >> > >> As far as I know, Tapestry's live class reloading never really worked >> in >> > >> Tomcat (because of it, not because of Tapestry), but I haven't tested >> it >> > >> for a while. I don't know about Glassfish. >> > >> >> > >> -- >> > >> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo >> > >> Independent Java consultant, developer, and instructor >> > >> http://www.arsmachina.com.br/thiago >> > >> >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Howard M. 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