On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 3:08 AM, Adam Zimowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You can use pretty much any IDE to develop your web application, but > Howard (the creator) as well as most people on the list use Eclipse, > so if you need IDE-specific help, you're most likely to get it here > with Eclipse as your tool. > > For application server (aka servlet container), again, you can use > anything (Tomcat, Resin, Jetty, JBoss, WebSphere, etc), but one that > is heavily preferred here is Jetty, for its speed and simplicity. > Again, you'll eliminate tons of potential problems related to app > server setup if you choose Jetty at least for you local development. > For example, under Jetty Tapestry live class reloading works > flawlessly, but not so under Tomcat (due to Tomcat's internal design, > specifically it's classloader design). > > Other than those two, you're free to use any technology. Tapestry has > a great support for Hibernate, so if you choose that you'll be right > at home. I personally use iBatis, and have had no problems integrating > it with Tapestry. Spring is also very well supported, but really, not > needed since one of Spring's biggest advantages, it's IOC container, > has built-in functionality in Tapestry. What I mean is that Tapestry > has a fantastic IOC container itself, which pretty much eliminates the > need for Spring. If you need AOP, integrating AspectJ should work just > as well. I wrote few applications in Tapestry 5 where the only part of > Spring I used was spring-core, spring-dao and spring-jdbc, to take > advantage of Spring data access layer. Tapestry is very, very flexible > in regards what technology stack you want to use with it. > > If you're used to logging with Log4J this may be a bit of change to > you, as Tapestry uses simple logging facade rather than commons > logging. What this means, you won't be using Log4J directly in your > apps as you may have in the past, instead you'll be using Logger class > from http://www.slf4j.org/. It takes a while getting used to, because > at first I would find myself using Log4J in non-Tapestry classes > anyway (just a habit) rather than pulling in slf4j. > > Finally, Tapestry 5 is a world-class code! If you have a chance take a > look at it's sources. It reads like a poem, simply put, it's a > masterpiece. What I mean by that is that it follows all the best > practices, desgin patterns, and everything a programmer should be > doing. You can learn a great bit about system design by following > patterns used by Tapestry itself.
Thanks for the complements! I prefer all my DSLs to be in iambic pentameter. > > It really helps to be very famliar with Inversion of Control, as > Tapestry implements it quite differently than what many newcommers are > used to. Using dependencies is very easy, as you found from the book, > just do @Inject, @InjectPage etc and bam! it's there. Setting up your > own (dao's, etc) is different though, as you build a "module" with > build methods or bindings, I'd recommend to get very familiar with > Tapestry IOC section on the website: > http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5/tapestry-ioc/. > > Other than that, I can only say Tapestry 5 is a pleasure to work with! > It's power is amazing, anything can be changed and configured, so if > you're ever thinking, jeez I don't like this or that default, what > now? Just send and e-mail to this list, and you'll see it most likely > can be changed the way you want it. > > Enjoy! > > On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 3:40 AM, mark lu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> sorry,i mean what technology do you use in you web application? >> such as tapestry ,spring ,hibernate,cvs,eclipse,etc. >> thank you for your help!! >> >> >> Filip S. Adamsen-2 wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm hardly an expert. I just read the docs and keep an eye on the >>> commits and JIRA issues. :) >>> >>> All the advice I can give is that you read ALL the docs on T5 and go >>> from there. Learning Spring is not necessary with T5 IoC. Hibernate is a >>> very good framework to know, though - I use it extensively myself. >>> >>> I can't recommend a database for you, it depends on the kind of >>> application you want to make, your budget, where you deploy, etc. >>> >>> What do you mean by what "knowledges" I use? >>> >>> -Filip >>> >>> mark lu skrev: >>>> Alexander 's book based on 5.0.6. >>>> i think you must be an expert in tapestry! >>>> i want to build my web application,cound you give me some advices? >>>> what other knowledges do i need except for tapestry?do i need learn >>>> spring >>>> or hibernate? >>>> Alexander recommend db4o as a database,how about you advice? >>>> what knowledges do you use in you web applicaton? >>>> thanks!! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Filip S. Adamsen-2 wrote: >>>>> Hi there, >>>>> >>>>> Welcome to the list. :) >>>>> >>>>> Alexander's book is based on Tapestry 5.0.7 or so, I believe. The >>>>> current beta version is 5.0.11 with 5.0.12 available as snapshots. >>>>> >>>>> As T5 was alpha when Alexander wrote the book, there have been quite a >>>>> few changes since then. You can see some of them at >>>>> http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5/tapestry-core/upgrade.html. >>>>> >>>>> If there's anything else that doesn't work I'd advise you to check out >>>>> the relevant docs at the website, and if that doesn't solve your >>>>> problem, send a mail to this list. We'll probably be able to tell you >>>>> what's going on. >>>>> >>>>> Regarding T5 applications, I've had one site running since December 2, >>>>> 2007 and another site up since August, 2007. >>>>> >>>>> -Filip >>>>> >>>>> On 2008-05-20 17:27, mark lu wrote: >>>>>> i am new to tapestry. >>>>>> i just want to use t5 to build my application and i don't want to learn >>>>>> the >>>>>> inner technology of t5. >>>>>> so,what's the stable version of t5? >>>>>> i have read Alexander Kolesnikov's book--tapestry 5 build web >>>>>> application,and know something about t5. >>>>>> however,during my studying process,i encountered some problem even >>>>>> though >>>>>> i >>>>>> have followed the book. >>>>>> so,i think it's the framework's bug,maybe. >>>>>> so...who can help me? >>>>>> >>>>>> another question: >>>>>> whoever have built a application using t5 already? >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://www.nabble.com/t5%27s-version--tp17343189p17358619.html >> Sent from the Tapestry - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Howard M. Lewis Ship Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
