+1 for org.apache.tapestry5

I havent given it too much thought, but sounds ok

Davor Hrg

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Martin Strand <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > I wouldn't go for "ng" though, merely because what if there's a new next
> generation.
>
> I think that would be Tapestry Deep Space Nine. :P
>
>
> On Tue, 20 May 2008 13:28:12 +0200, Christian Edward Gruber <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Heh.  The fish bit did get kinda carried away there.  But I guess
> > we're still united by the "fillet" designation. ;)
> >
> > I wouldn't go for "ng" though, merely because what if there's a new
> > next generation.  It gets silly.  Either a version or a codename, I
> > figure.  Maybe "sb" for "strutsbuster".
> >
> > Christian.
> >
> > On 20-May-08, at 06:24 , kranga wrote:
> >
> >> Somebody likes fish :)
> >>
> >> +1 for the idea
> >> -1 for the fishiness of it!
> >>
> >> I would go with a distinguisher in the package other than the
> >> version so that come T6, new users are wondering "what on earth?"
> >>
> >> My suggestion would be
> >>
> >> org.apache.tapestry.ng    (for Next Generation)
> >>
> >> or along the food line:
> >>
> >> org.apache.tapestry.mignon
> >> org.apache.tapestry.ribeye
> >> org.apache.tapestry.nystrip
> >> org.apache.tapestry.porterhouse
> >>
> >> you get the drift :)
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christian Edward Gruber" <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >
> >> To: "Tapestry users" <users@tapestry.apache.org>
> >> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 6:22 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Instability in Tapestry 5.0.12-SNAPSHOT
> >>
> >>
> >>> Again, the differences between T3, T4, and T5 are not really
> >>> "versions" in the typical sense.  They're different architectural
> >>> bases.  You might call them three different web frameworks
> >>> entirely.   So there should be no reason technically for them to
> >>> overlap, and they  should have three different packages.  You might
> >>> as well have them by  three different codenames, at which point you
> >>> have
> >>>
> >>> org.apache.tapestry.trout
> >>> org.apache.tapestry.tuna
> >>> org.apache.tapestry.tilapia
> >>>
> >>> Different frameworks, all under the Tapestry project.  The fact
> >>> that org.apache.tapestry.yellowtail shows up in four years should
> >>> have no bearing on the other three. (again, not that it will, just
> >>> making a point)
> >>>
> >>> Christian.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 19-May-08, at 17:59 , Markus Joschko wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I'm not against a package rename but against the version number.
> >>>>
> >>>> The only benefit of putting a version number in, is to help tap4
> >>>> users
> >>>> now. But who will care about tap4 in 2 years?
> >>>> The version number will still be in the code base by then.
> >>>> If the official version number of tapestry is changing from 5 to
> >>>> 2011
> >>>> or whatsoever, developers will at best be irritated by the tapestry5
> >>>> package names
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 11:41 PM, Sven Homburg <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> > wrote:
> >>>>> markus,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> i voted for package renaming like "org.apache.tapestry5"
> >>>>> but i go even conform with your mind.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> if i read the reason for the package renaming, i was relay
> >>>>> alienated for that,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> but on the other side, i am not sure, its more easier for
> >>>>> some tap4 user to migrate slowly to tap5.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> but i am not sure, in our real fast spinning world,
> >>>>> if  there are much developer they say "i migrate tommorow"
> >>>>> and belive their own mind voice.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2008/5/19 Markus Joschko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Looks like I am alone but I don't like the idea of putting version
> >>>>>> numbers into package names.
> >>>>>> In the highly unlikely case that there will be a tapestry 6 (not
> >>>>>> for
> >>>>>> technical but solely for marketing reasons ;-)) it might confuse
> >>>>>> developers. Are the classes in tapestry5 still valid or not?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Only developers who will run tapestry4 and 5 in one webapplication
> >>>>>> might have the problem of distinguishing between the packages.
> >>>>>> I guess that they are the minority and it might be reasonable
> >>>>>> for  them
> >>>>>> to read the class comments if they are in doubt which package
> >>>>>> belongs
> >>>>>> to which tapestry version.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> so -1 for a tapestry5 or v5.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> my 2cents,
> >>>>>> Markus
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Blower, Andy
> >>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>>>> I agree.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>> From: Massimo Lusetti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>>>>> Sent: 19 May 2008 16:02
> >>>>>>>> To: Tapestry users
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Instability in Tapestry 5.0.12-SNAPSHOT
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The question is: would it have been better to just broadly
> >>>>>>>>> rename
> >>>>>>>>> org.apache.tapestry to org.apache.tapestry5?  There was quite
> >>>>>>>>> a  bit
> >>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>> discussion back on forth among the developers on this one.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I would say yes.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Massimo
> >>>>>>>> http://meridio.blogspot.com
>
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