You're quite right, this is what's happening rather than the live class 
reloading. My mistake.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Stavrinides [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 24 April 2008 07:14
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: Re: AW: Automatic class reloading on Tomcat 6 not working for
> me
>
> Tomcat in eclipse has an Automatic publishing feature, which is not to
> be confused with live class reloading. Publishing requires a partial
> restart and republishes the war, you will notice the difference when
> your web application grows, running the same app under jetty reloading
> reloading is instant whereas under Tomcat it degrades significantly as
> it grows.
>
>
> Blower, Andy wrote:
> > Tomcat 5.5 live reloading works for me with Eclipse. I followed the
> setup process from the Tapestry 5 - Building Web Applications book and
> it works fine. I've not really got into figuring out how a real dev
> environment should be set up yet - I'm just evaluating/prototyping so
> far. I've not tried TC6.
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Peter Stavrinides [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: 23 April 2008 15:44
> >> To: Tapestry users
> >> Subject: Re: AW: Automatic class reloading on Tomcat 6 not working
> for
> >> me
> >>
> >> Hi Josh,
> >>
> >> I am pleasantly surprised to hear it works in IntelliJ, has anyone
> got
> >> it working in eclipse?
> >>
> >> Josh Canfield wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hmm... after reading the title again I guess the fact that it works
> >>>
> >> in
> >>
> >>> Tomcat 5.5 is irrelevant... sorry for the sidetrack.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Josh Canfield
> >>>
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> I use Tomcat 5.5 and IntelliJ, I haven't tried tomcat in eclipse.
> >>>>
> >> I've
> >>
> >>>> found that if I don't allow IntelliJ to replace the classes while
> >>>> debugging then the Tapestry reloading will work. Otherwise, it
> might
> >>>> work once then goes back to the old class.
> >>>>
> >>>> Josh
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 2:44 AM, Martin Kersten
> >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Is it still true? I use hot replacement for components and
> somehow
> >>>>>
> >> the class
> >>
> >>>>> is reloaded. I thought this issue was solved. Do I miss
> something?
> >>>>> (Using also T6)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >>>>> Von: Peter Stavrinides [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. April 2008 11:05
> >>>>> An: Tapestry users
> >>>>> Betreff: Re: AW: Automatic class reloading on Tomcat 6 not
> working
> >>>>>
> >> for me
> >>
> >>>>> You cannot use Tomcat for class reloading, this is not a bug,
> it's
> >>>>>
> >> a feature which apparently is a result of the limitations Java has
> for
> >> package traversal and exploration, Jetty somehow gets around this
> >> partially but its also not perfect...
> >>
> >>>>> http://tapestryjava.blogspot.com/2007/02/fighting-with-
> tomcat.html
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Filip S. Adamsen wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> There's an equivalent antiResource(s)Locking attribute as well
> >>>>>>
> >> that I
> >>
> >>>>>> think you might need.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I use Jetty for all my development, though, and only test in
> >>>>>>
> >> Tomcat
> >>
> >>>>>> before deploying my applications.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -Filip
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2008-04-16 18:45, Javier Molina wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Do you work on Windows? I've changed my packaging to build a
> .jar
> >>>>>>> with my classes and put it in WEB-INF/lib instead of having the
> >>>>>>> exploded classes in WEB-INF/classes but once the webapp is
> >>>>>>>
> >> started, I
> >>
> >>>>>>> can't replace the .jar, the file is locked. I have tried to set
> >>>>>>> antiJARLocking="true" in the <Context> element but that doesn't
> >>>>>>>
> >> help.
> >>
> >>>>>>> Is anyone working with tapestry 5 and tomcat on windows with
> >>>>>>>
> >> working
> >>
> >>>>>>> auto-reload of classes?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Filip S. Adamsen escribió:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I believe the reloading is the only Tapestry-related thing
> >>>>>>>>
> >> affected
> >>
> >>>>>>>> by this. But I use Maven and archiveClasses in both
> development
> >>>>>>>>
> >> and
> >>
> >>>>>>>> production so I can't say for sure.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -Filip
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 2008-04-16 16:38, Stranzenbach, Ralf wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Does this "tomcat bug" affect only the class/page reloading
> >>>>>>>>>
> >> process
> >>
> >>>>>>>>> or is there any other significant problem that may arise
> during
> >>>>>>>>> development / production.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I've tried to create a sample application using Tomcat +
> >>>>>>>>>
> >> Tapestry
> >>
> >>>>>>>>> 5.0.10 and everything seems to work fine beside that
> reloading
> >>>>>>>>>
> >> issues.
> >>
> >>>>>>>>> - Ralf
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> ________________________________
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Von: Filip S. Adamsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Mi 16.04.2008 16:36
> >>>>>>>>> An: Tapestry users
> >>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: Automatic class reloading on Tomcat 6 not
> working
> >>>>>>>>>
> >> for
> >>
> >>>>>>>>> me
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Due to the way class loaders work in Tomcat you have to jar
> >>>>>>>>>
> >> your
> >>
> >>>>>>>>> classes etc. and put the jar into WEB-INF/lib.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5/tomcat.html
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> -Filip
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 2008-04-16 13:42, Javier Molina wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm working with Tapestry 5.0.11 and Tomcat 6 (tested on
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> 6.0.14
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>> and 6.0.16). Automatic class reloading doesn't work for
> pages
> >>>>>>>>>> (there are no components yet in this test application, so I
> >>>>>>>>>> haven't checked that).
> >>>>>>>>>> Jetty 6 works fine and does autoreload pages.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Is this a known issue? Do I have to configure anything in
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> Tomcat
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>> to get class reloading to work?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
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