Well, I'm not disputing the fact that Tapestry is a good framework but all
what I'm saying is the fact that at every major release there must be a
whole rewrite from scratch with little or no regard to backward
compatibility seems to me not a tool for prime time, or serious stuffs
besides a Hello world applications. I consider Tapestry a tool for
experimentation at the labs or schools where students are knowledge hungry
to learn new things. If your business is based on a model that looks into
the future then I'm afraid you'll be sorry to go with Tapestry. Because
every year when you want to benefit from the evolution in Webframework
technology, you'll have to start all over again- in otherwords throw away
your earlier investment. Tapestry is good but there are far more better and
excellent frameworks out there with genius people behind it that at each
major release they face the challenge of backward compatibility head on and
make everyone happy. They don't choose the easy route of starting all over
again. That one even first year computer science students can do.

Your's friendly,

Rob

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Jonathan Barker <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Rob,
>
> You may have a point or two.
>
> That what you describe as one of the best Internet applications has beta
> status suggests that some beta code is as good as / better that other
> production code.  I would have to agree.  I've had production apps running
> on Tapestry alpha code for some time.
>
> The length of time that Gmail has been in beta is, however, a cop-out.  To
> me, it's Google's way of saying, "Don't blame us."  Come on Google, stand
> behind your application!  I suspect that will change as they market more
> heavily to small business.
>
> It would have been more useful had you picked another application
> framework
> to compare to Tapestry for stability and time in beta.  Perhaps next time.
>
> That you personally don't do anything with Tapestry beyond a Hello World
> application... oh, never mind, that's too easy a target.
>
> FYI, .02 cent = $0.0002
>
> Jonathan
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rob Smeets [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 8:06 AM
> > To: Tapestry users
> > Subject: Re: T5: beta?
> >
> > Guys, stop the exagerations. Gmail, one of the best Internet application
> > ever written still has a beta status. Unlike Tapestry,  Gmail has had
> the
> > beta status for years and would therefore trust it more than Tapestry
> > which
> > I personally won't do anything serious with it beyond a little bit more
> > advanced Hello world application.
> >
> > My .02 cent.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Blower, Andy
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The fact that you're using T5 in the real world at this beta stage is
> > very
> > > good news for the upcoming release IMO, even if it delays the RC a
> bit.
> > (not
> > > too much though I hope ;-)
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Howard Lewis Ship [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: 09 April 2008 19:32
> > > > To: Tapestry users
> > > > Subject: Re: T5: beta?
> > > >
> > > > We're still not making a big deal; the transition from alpha to beta
> > > > affects us more than the rest of the world.  I think we'll probably
> > > > start seeing a new branch for 5.0 work and a switch-over of trunk to
> > > > 5.1 pretty soon.
> > > >
> > > > In the meantime, I'm using 5.0.12 for a client project and finding a
> > > > fair amount of rough edges and minor bugs.  I'd just as soon take
> care
> > > > of those in parallel with the client project since the end result is
> a
> > > > far more useable and finished 5.0 final.
> > > >
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