To hijack this thread, I do think Howard deserves praise!

I've really been enjoying Tapestry 4.1, although I haven't played with 5 yet since I'm currently busy with some other non-web projects. My boss, in particular, was impress that tapestry could query our database and display a web page FASTER than our main app (written in C) can query the DB and display the data on it's own. We are using Tapestry pages now for more of our back office accessed via a web- window in our main app, and it's been great.

I do agree that we ALL could do a better job with evangelism. Some projects naturally attract evangelists (think Ruby on Rails, which I gave up on very, very early as unsuitable.) Personally, I'm too busy developing to read and post on general java and web forums/lists. I selected Tapestry because it was, in my evaluation, the best, not because it's the most popular. I wanted fast and powerful.

Norman Franke
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On Feb 11, 2008, at 11:45 AM, Howard Lewis Ship wrote:

Don't even bother to respond, just delete the message.  Anything else
just tweaks the troll.

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