On Jan 31, 2008 8:42 PM, Michael Lake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The plugins appear to be from different teams. Perhaps Sun is lining > someone's pockets better than JetBrains? :)
AFAIK, that's not the case! NB's plugin is just a 'spare-time' project, and it's amazing that it works so well... The problem with NB is that there's no concept like Eclipse's nature or idea's facet. So, a maven project can't really be a web project, meaning that you dont get all the nice wizards and tools that they've build for them > > Hopefully 2.1 answers all our prayers and that the IDE plugin dev > teams can integrate successfully. > > -mike > > > On Jan 31, 2008, at 12:17 PM, Christian Edward Gruber wrote: > > > Heh. I've been following the maven dev list, and some of the re- > > thinking done for 2.1 seems to clean things out substantially, > > including resolving this whole issue of repeatability and making > > things cleaner for stamping a build environment (sets of plugins, > > etc.) I'm not saying this to suggest "stick with m2", but just to > > validate that some news of the headaches are reaching the right > > people, and things are being altered to address some of the worst of > > this. > > > > BTW, I've used the maven ant tasks for dependency stuff with great > > success, using the dependency stuff to generate classpaths for ant > > tasks. Might be the ticket for here, though I don't know if it will > > build maven artifacts suitable for dropping on a repository auto- > > magi-conveniently. > > > > Christian. > > > > On 31-Jan-08, at 11:11 , Howard Lewis Ship wrote: > > > >> It's quite possible to use Ant to build, but to generate Maven > >> artifacts. The dependencies are the good part of Maven, it's just > >> the > >> build system layered on those dependencies that is atrocious. > >> > >> On Jan 31, 2008 6:59 AM, Christian Edward Gruber > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> I'd like to second that, and at the very least, releasing maven > >>> artifacts for those wanting to build T5 apps using M2 is critical. > >>> This can be done regardless of whether T5 itself is using maven, but > >>> it would be critical to easy use in most environments in which I > >>> have > >>> worked or foresee working. > >>> > >>> Christian. > >>> > >>> > >>> On 31-Jan-08, at 09:56 , Mark W. Shead wrote: > >>> > >>>> http://tapestryjava.blogspot.com/2007/11/maven-wont-get-fooled-again.html > >>>> > >>>> After reading Howard's thoughts on using Maven for a large project, > >>>> I'm concerned that Tapestry might drop Maven support entirely and I > >>>> wanted to offer an end user perspective. As far as what is used to > >>>> build T5 for the developers, I understand if they want to switch to > >>>> something else. However, since most Java developers are going to > >>>> be > >>>> using Maven for something, I think it is vital to keep the > >>>> capability of creating a T5 project from an archetype. > >>>> > >>>> This lowers the barrier for people wanting to try it out. Doing > >>>> away with this capability would increased the real (or at least > >>>> perceived) complexity of "trying things out" for developers who are > >>>> already using Maven for other things. > >>>> > >>>> Just my two cents. > >>>> > >>>> Mark > >>>> > >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Howard M. Lewis Ship > >> > >> Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- Andreas Andreou - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://blog.andyhot.gr Tapestry / Tacos developer Open Source / JEE Consulting --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
