Ok, as you can see in the tapestry-ioc documentation there are three ways of injecting dependencies into services. Only one of them is actually intrusive, the "As parameters to the service implementation class' constructor (for autobuilt services)" one. If you use this way then you will need to use the Inject annotation in your service implementation class which will create the dependency you don't want.

So, this leaves you with the other two choices. The "As parameters to the service builder method" way has an example right in the beginning of the "Injecting Dependencies" sections of the docs. This way your service class can be completely independent of your IoC container. All the injection stuff is done in the module builder class. All you have to do is declare the dependencies in your service build method in the module builder and use the service class setters to set it's dependencies.

Finally, you can use the "As parameters passed to the constructor of the service's module builder (cached inside instance variables)" way. This in not intrusive also because, again, all the injection stuff is done in the module builder. Only this time instead of the dependencies being injected as parameters in the build method they are injected in you module builder class constructor.

Hope this helps...

Michael Bernagou wrote:
Hi Hugo,

It is exactly that and I didn't understand how to do that. Whatever I test,
it works but it is intrusive.
I re-read the documentation about tapestry-ioc and I still not understand
how to do that. I need an example of webapp with 3 layers around the ioc to
see how tapestry-ioc gives the services instance to the layers.

@Thiago, I read this part but I don't know enought Spring to decide if
tapestry-ioc is really better than Spring. I'm not sure "better" is the
word. I would prefer "more adapt for Tapestry webapp" but it's just my
feelling. Just to argue a little more, if it is really "better", why the way
to use service injection is different between ioc - MVC and ioc - DAO or ioc
- WS (example, declare a Logger in these all 3 layers and compare the
howto)? Learning a way to do the same thing for each layer is not something
"better".
I'm quite sure it can be "better" than Spring but for some developper, XML
is better than Pojo... just a point of view ;o)
For now, I want to try to use Tapestry-ioc because I think again it is more
adapt to my needs

2007/12/14, Hugo Palma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
mmmmm, i think there's something missing here....
If i'm understanding correctly you want tapestry-ioc to manage all your
services (either presentation stuf, db stuff, etc) and you don't want it
to be intrusive. You don't want to reference any tapestry-ioc API inside
you service classes. Does that describe the problem ?
If so, tapestry-ioc can solve your problem really easily.

Michael Bernagou wrote:
So I have to call the current Registry (or to manage it myself) and call
the
myRegistry.getService(MyService.class);

Hum, I think it's not ioc anymore if I have to setup my containers
(Axis2,
Hibernate) to call the tapestry-ioc or I have to create a sort of
"middle
layer" between the layer and the tapestry-ioc, and then my classes have
to
call this middleLayer... hum...

How do you do yourself? Webapp have usually more than just a MVC layer.
Are
you using the tapestry-ioc only for the MVC layer?
Its seems to me strange for one class having to use @Inject Logger log;
and
for another class Logger log = Logger.getLogger(
ApplicationDaoImpl.class.getName());

2 ways to get the logger in the same application for the same target log
file... Maybe tapestry-ioc should be extended to take care also to the
other
layers.

Maybe I'm totally wrong ;o) so, how should it be coded to respect ioc
pattern between tapestr-ioc and other layers such as Axis2 and
Hibernate3
(for T5 we know ;o) )

Thanks


2007/12/14, Michael Bernagou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Ok I'm going to investigate about that Registry.
So, what's the interrest to use tapestry-ioc instead of Spring ioc? If
I
need my ioc to provide all the services I need, I cannot use
tapestry-ioc
unless I need my other layers to call explicitely the ioc which is not
recommended when you want independant layers working together.

@Hugo, ok I'm going to reread again this part.

2007/12/14, Kristian Marinkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >:

hi michael,

@Inject only works in Tapestry pages and components (and mixins).
By default Tapestry will use the field type as an id and lookup the
corresponding ioc service.

I assume your Web Service Container was not started by the ioc
container so it runs outside its control. Therefore you have to first
obtain an ioc Registry first and then ask it explicitly for the
service
you want to call. The builder methods are not meant to be called
except by the container :)

g,
kris




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Hi,

I have a sort of general question about tapestry-ioc. In fact, I would
like
it to manage all the services of my webapp. In theory it should be the
case,
shouldn't be?

So to provides services to my MVC, no problem the syntax @Inject
MyService
_myService; work perfectly. But, to provide services the same way for
my
Dao
it's different. The same syntax doesn't provide any instance.
I used the tapestry-hibernate and declare my dao as services :

  import org.hibernate.Session;

  public static UserDao buildUserDao(@InjectService("Session") Session
session) {
      return new UserDaoImpl(session);
  }

  public static UserService buildUserService(@InjectService("UserDao")
UserDao dao) {
    return new UserServiceImpl(dao);
  }

So my implementation can work. But to use the service, all the callers
have
to know a session object!
Ok, if my caller is a web service, and this web service want to call
the
UserService, @Inject UserService _userService; DOES NOT work and
_userService is null! So I have to call explicitely the builder of my
service FROM the web service... If I do that, I bypass the IoC purpose
because I link it directly :

UserService us = AppModule.buildUserService ( ... and then I have a
problem!
buildUserService need a UserDao, but my web service doesn't care about
knowing any kind of dao!

So, I should be able to use @Inject MyService _myService; anywhere in
my
project and the tapestry-ioc should be able to give instance to all
the
class...

Did I (probably) missed something?

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