Believe it or not, but I managed to have those error messages looking properly for a screenshot - in an older Netscape browser! :D I hope the guys will fix the error before the book will be printed. Thanks for finding it!
> Is there room for a chapter on extending the BeanEditForm Unfortunately not. The publisher requires the book to be 250 pages thick out of their technological/commercial considerations, at the very most 300. I can squeeze in to this the very fundamentals only. On the other hand, if this book will attract more active Tapestry developers, the publisher might want to create a more in-depth book one day. BeanEditForm took a half of chapter 5, leaving another half to Grid. Cheers, Alex -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Jue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 August 2007 14:34 To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: [T5] BeanEditForm CSS suggestion IIRC, there was an error in the error CSS that some of us ran into, with a margin being set at -20px instead of 20px. I overrode that style to fix the problem. I believe it is this: div.t-error li { list-style-type: disc; margin-left: 20px; } I agree CSS for layout and positioning is not the answer for all of us -- I've switched back and forth a few times already (with tables). I think the only decent answer is to not pick a side, and let there be an implementation for both. Is there room for a chapter on extending the BeanEditForm (thereby changing the markup that gets output, so at least you have a specific CSS tag for everything?) On 8/22/07, Kolesnikov, Alexander GNI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks, guys, > > You see, if it was just for myself I would certainly do as you > suggest. The problem is that I am writing a book on T5 and the idea is > to keep the book as simple as possible. So far I have managed to do > this, and I am already in chapter 6. > > What can be easier than BeanEditForm? Just insert a short line of code > into the page template, and here you have a lot of stuff in one > moment, including a fully blown validation! Do you want to change > which properties are displayed and how they are edited? That's easy > (two ways: changing the edited object or using BeanModel)... Do you > want to change the look of the form? Just override the default CSS > styles... Blah, blah.. > > Everything goes on easily. But finally we see a form with error > messages going awry in major browsers (displayed across the left > border of the > component) and submit button that cannot be positioned without creating > a custom component or doing some tricks... > > As a result, there is an impression that BeanEditForm is good only for > quick prototyping where you do not care about the appearance. Although > it would be so easy to make it both powerful AND looking nice. > > I.m.o. the problem of BeanEditForm is that its layout was created by a > CSS purist who cannot bear using tables even when they make things > tremendously easier. If a table was used as a skeleton, the error > messages would never go across the border, whichever browser you use. > And if a row or, well, DIV for the submit button had a special style, > the component as a whole would become much more useful. > > Tapestry 5 is in active development, and I am simply trying to provide > some feedback to its developers. I would say that making things easier > and more reliable would assist in wider acceptance of the framework. > > Cheers, > > Alexander > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Lewis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 20 August 2007 17:19 > To: Tapestry users > Subject: Re: [T5] BeanEditForm CSS suggestion > > > You can extend the BeadEditForm instead of copying it can't you? That > would be a pain... > > Daniel Jue wrote: > > In general, Tapestry's defaults are good -- they get you up and > > running. But for people who want to add more pieces of flair to the > > components, we'll probably end up needing to copy the component and > > make changes as needed. For example, rewriting the Grid component's > > template to make changes to the DOM that gets output. Or adding > > more CSS tags to the elements of the bean form, so we can make more > > specific CSS changes if we want to. > > > > As for the colon. it's plausible that you may want a question mark > > after a field label, or perhaps in some locales you may not want a > > prompt character at all. > > > > For an immediate fix, without affecting your other submit buttons, > > maybe you can wrap your bean edit form inside a div, and use that > > div's class as a way to help target the submit button. > > > > On 8/20/07, Kolesnikov, Alexander GNI > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Thank you, Chris, > >> > >> CSS2 has a lot of wonderful stuff in it, but the problem is that it > >> doesn't work consistently in different browsers. For example, your > >> solution works in Firefox, but not in IE6, the most popular Web > >> browser these days. > >> > >> On the other hand, having a different style for the button area > >> would > > >> work in every browser, and it would allow someone to use a > >> different background for the button area too - why not? > >> > >> Another style used for BeanEditForm I am not happy with is this: > >> > >> FORM.t-beaneditor LABEL:after { > >> content: ":"; > >> } > >> > >> Looks like a clever use of CSS2, but again, this doesn't work in > >> both > > >> IE6 and IE7. Also, in some other browsers (don't remember now, > >> probably Opera), the colon seems to be lower than the label, not > >> properly aligned. And, if you think about it, why not to have this > >> colon hard-coded? What else one would wish to place after the label > >> instead of a colon? A semicolon? :/ > >> > >> Alexander > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Chris Lewis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: 17 August 2007 18:07 > >> To: Tapestry users > >> Subject: Re: [T5] BeanEditForm CSS suggestion > >> > >> > >> Alexander, > >> > >> You can use CSS2 attribute selectors to match only submit input > >> types. Try this: > >> > >> div.t-beaneditor-row input[type="submit"] { font-size: 20px; } > >> > >> This will match only input elements of type submit. > >> > >> chris > >> > >> Kolesnikov, Alexander GNI wrote: > >> > >>> I wonder if it would make sense to use a different CSS class for > >>> the > > >>> DIV that contains the Submit button in BeanEditForm (not > >>> t-beaneditor-row)? 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