Agree with you Jesse, but I'm pretty sure that "good enough" solution
can only emerge from the frequent iterations and frequent feedback
from the users - mean frequent releases of the functionality.
IMHO in Tap5 most important thing that is missing is AJAX, let it be
very simple, very primitive but integrated into Tap5 as a separate
module (say tapestry-ajax or something like this) that we can play
with them and see.

Renat

On 14/06/07, Jesse Kuhnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well now ~cough~ umm ...I wouldn't say it's lacking features - he's just
being careful / methodical like always.  I'm sure Howard is quite capable of
doing a better job than what happened in T4 (and we'll expect nothing less
;) ) but it's a really tricky thing to get right.  I'm still not totally
satisfied with the way things work in 4.1.2 and hope that the fresh start T5
has and much thinking will continue to produce a clean model.  There are a
lot of neat "ajax" features in there already from what I've read. (like
event bubbling in the server side as well? perfect abstraction )

Realistically sometimes these things are actually being worked on - if only
in someones head for weeks/months until they feel like everything has been
thought through.  It's not something you can just rush in to or anything...

On 6/14/07, Renat Zubairov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Great news! Looking forward to see a new release!
>
> I really hope that after 4.1.2 Jesse would be able to contibute all
> his experience and _excellent_ ideas in to Tapestry 5 which is really
> lucking AJAX features right now.
>
> What are the plans about AJAX in Tap5?
>
> Renat
>
> On 14/06/07, Jesse Kuhnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am waiting a few days for word back from the opensymphony.com people
> about
> > some items I need to get OGNL released.  If I haven't heard anything by
> this
> > weekend I may just release it quietly on ibiblio myself for now.   After
> > that is done then we can finally start all of the steps involved in
> > releasing tapestry.
> >
> > On 6/13/07, Lionel Touati <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Jessee,
> > >
> > > I was wondering if you've updated the schedule for 4.1.2 release. You
> > > wrote earlier that you would be waiting for OGNL to get stable before
> > > announcing anything. It seems to me this is the case now, so do you
> have
> > > an idea on when this could happen now ?
> > >
> > > Thanks for the hard work
> > >
> > >
> > > L.
> > >
> > >
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