Okay, I understand, write test for checking this particular thing and you can be calm.
How are you satisfied with using Hibernate Validator? jirka Martin Grotzke napsal(a): > Yes, we already did this, but this works only as long as the internals > of tapestry do not change. E.g. if another property of Field would be > used or e.g. the hashCode or equals methods would be used, our > application would be broken. > > That's why I ask for a modification of the interface. > > Cheers, > Martin > > > On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 09:26 +0200, Jiri Mares wrote: >> Hi Martin, >> >> why not to implement your own Field and fill it with the name and pass it >> into recordError? >> >> Jirka >> >> Martin Grotzke napsal(a): >>> Yes, I totally understand and it's of course very important that >>> you do not change the API each time a user asks for it. >>> >>> The question in this case is then: why does the interface require >>> a Field? It's only the Field's elementName that is used for the >>> recordError functionality, so is it only for convenience, that >>> recordError expects a Field, so that users do not have to do >>> s.th. like recordError(_field.getElementName(), "foo")? >>> >>> Or is there another reason why recordError asks for a Field? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Martin >>> >>> >>> On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 10:54 -0700, Howard Lewis Ship wrote: >>>> There's a long history in Tapestry of any time there's a hint of extra >>>> API, people find a way to abuse it. So I'm being very, very >>>> conservative! >>>> >>>> On 6/12/07, Martin Grotzke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> And what are your concerns with an additional method >>>>> recordError(String,String) on the ValidationTracker (and Form)? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Martin >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 09:19 -0700, Howard Lewis Ship wrote: >>>>>> I'm not familiar enough with Hibernate Validator to say. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 6/11/07, Martin Grotzke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Howard, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, 2007-06-09 at 22:44 +0200, Martin Grotzke wrote: >>>>>>>> Does this enable us to use hibernate validator in our business layer >>>>>>>> that is completely independent from tapestry? >>>>>>>> Hibernate validator is right now our favorite option for validation, >>>>>>>> but it might be that we have to use an own implementation - we're still >>>>>>>> evaluating. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What we're sure about is that in the business layer validation is >>>>>>>> performed and that for each validation error details are provided >>>>>>>> that should allow the presentation layer to map this information >>>>>>>> to a specific field/element. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> IMHO a good solution for this use case is recording the error with >>>>>>>> the element name, without being forced to have a Field for each >>>>>>>> element. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What do you think? >>>>>>> Do you have any comments/feedback concerning this? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanx && cheers, >>>>>>> Martin >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Martin >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, 2007-06-09 at 12:48 -0700, Howard Lewis Ship wrote: >>>>>>>>> That's true ... though I expect to make Tapestry smarter about >>>>>>>>> recognizing the Hibernate annotations and producing automatic client- >>>>>>>>> and server-side validation for them. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 6/9/07, Martin Grotzke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> We want to do validation in the business layer (with hibernate >>>>>>>>>> validator) and get back an exception with a list of invalid values, >>>>>>>>>> where each invalid value provides the property path. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Then we want to have a mapping of the property path to the element >>>>>>>>>> name and record an error for this on the tapestry form. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The value is to be able to use hibernate validator in our business >>>>>>>>>> layer and not to be forced to define each Field in the page class, >>>>>>>>>> which is better in terms of performance and saves unnecessary work. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>> Martin >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2007-06-09 at 10:07 -0700, Howard Lewis Ship wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> I don't see the value ... how would you obtain the element name >>>>>>>>>>> without getting the field itself; and if you've injected the field >>>>>>>>>>> (to >>>>>>>>>>> invoke getElementName() ), then why wouldn't you just pass the field >>>>>>>>>>> to the tracker? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Convince me there's something actually missing. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/07, Martin Grotzke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> right now there's a recordError(Field,String) method for storing >>>>>>>>>>>> errors for elements of the page. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> We would like to have also a method recordError(String,String) >>>>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>>>> the first parameter is the element name. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The ValidationTrackerImpl seems to use only the elementName of the >>>>>>>>>>>> Field: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> private FieldTracker get(Field field) >>>>>>>>>>>> { >>>>>>>>>>>> String key = field.getElementName(); >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> refreshFieldToTracker(); >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> FieldTracker result = InternalUtils.get(_fieldToTracker, >>>>>>>>>>>> key); >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> if (result == null) >>>>>>>>>>>> result = new FieldTracker(key); >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> return result; >>>>>>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> so an additional method seems to be not a big issue. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Would this be possible to add to T5? Shall we submit a patch for >>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>> here in the list or enter an issue? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanx && cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>> Martin >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Martin Grotzke >>>>>>>>>>>> Dipl.-Inf. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> freiheit.com technologies gmbh >>>>>>>>>>>> Straßenbahnring 22 / 20251 Hamburg, Germany >>>>>>>>>>>> fon +49 (0)40 / 890584-0 >>>>>>>>>>>> fax +49 (0)40 / 890584-20 >>>>>>>>>>>> HRB Hamburg 70814 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> eb0e 645c 9730 c8a3 ee2f 1b9a 5de5 21cb c259 fe34 >>>>>>>>>>>> Geschäftsführer: Claudia Dietze, Stefan Richter, Jörg Kirchhof >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Martin Grotzke >>>>>>>>>> http://www.javakaffee.de/blog/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Martin Grotzke >>>>>>> http://www.javakaffee.de/blog/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Martin Grotzke >>>>> http://www.javakaffee.de/blog/ >>>>> >>>>> -- Jiří Mareš (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) ČSAD SVT Praha, s.r.o. 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