So tacos 4.0 is definetly not compatible with Tapestry 4.1? If so, it
would be nice to include  old components and forward them to  tapestry
with a not that they are deprecated.

On 12/5/06, andyhot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
No, not really...
I've recently started tacos-4.1.0 snapshot releases... but they only
contain
the sitemap components = really cool way to get an instant menu system in
your app.

Anyway, some tacos components can now be replaced with the ones tapestry
provides,
which ones are you currently using ?
For instance tacos:AjaxForm can now be Form with async=true

So, i wasn't planning on including tacos:AjaxForm and such in tacos-4.1.0
but perhaps we can ease the migration process by adding them + making
them forward to tapestry's ones

Daniel Tabuenca wrote:
> If I'm currently using 4.0.2+Tacos, can someone tell me if I can
> upgrade to 4.1+Tacos and incrmenetally port my pages that use tacos
> components to the new 4.1 ajax framework?
>
> On 12/5/06, Sam Gendler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Given the parameters that you describe for your app, I'd definitely go
>> with 4.1.  The only reason I wouldn't is if you knew you were going to
>> be building a very large app that was going to use a significant
>> percentage of the API, since in that case, you might struggle keeping
>> up with changes.  But all the baseline tapestry functionality works
>> 98% of the time and I imagine that the API in the core is already
>> pretty stable. Bugs may come and go, but at least you shouldn't be
>> rewriting entire functions to match some new interface.  And 4.1 is
>> unquestionably superior to tap + tacos for ajax functionality
>> (although tacos has some nice components that haven't been ported yet.
>>  But they should be pretty simple to do yourself, shoudl the need
>> arise).
>>
>> --sam
>>
>>
>> On 12/5/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Thanks! My app is launched in 4.0 right now, but the next version
>> will probably be launched January 31st, so that was part of the
>> reason I was aching to go for 4.1 since there's still 2 months to go
>> for bug fixes, etc... Though I suppose we *should* schedule Christmas
>> somewhere in there ;)
>> >
>> > Greg
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ron Piterman
>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 1:23 PM
>> > To: users@tapestry.apache.org
>> > Subject: Re: 4.1 Stability (Hi Jesse! :P)
>> >
>> >
>> > If you need ajax, you can't go around 4.1 - if you don't, 4.0 has some
>> > advantages (as far as I can see) - such as much smaller javascript
>> > footprint for form validation, and stability -
>> >
>> > However, Jesse does a great work in fixing bugs in 4.1 very fast, I go
>> > to sleep in Europe and Jesse fixes the bugs at day time in the states,
>> > so the next morning a new version is out - thats amazing !
>> >
>> > It is not so easy to recommend anything in active development for
>> > production - I can just say - I am working on a project which
>> should go
>> > in production on Jan 1st and am using 4.1 ---
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Ron
>> >
>> >
>> > Cyrille37 wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hi Jesse,
>> > >
>> > > You think we have to use the 4.1 vs. 4.0.
>> > > For example I'm learning Tapestry for a project which will really
>> start
>> > > in january.
>> > > Will you tell me to use the 4.1 ?
>> > >
>> > > thanks
>> > > cyrille
>> > >
>> > > Jesse Kuhnert a écrit :
>> > >> I think it would reckless of me to recommend anything that may
>> or may
>> > >> not affect anyone's job/career..
>> > >>
>> > >> That being said - if it were me - yeah I'd totally go for it.
>> > >>
>> > >> It's probably been a mistake to wait so long for 4.1.1 to come out
>> > >> anyways. Probably I'll just fix this validation message issue and
>> > >> release it.
>> > >>
>> > >> On 12/5/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > >>> Okay, I know Jesse is probably fed up with these types of
>> questions!
>> > >>> And we've gone over it before, about 4.1, 5.0, roadmaps, etc, a
>> > >>> couple weeks ago.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> The 4.1 "snapshot" that's out right now, for a relatively
>> simple app
>> > >>> - no custom components, hivemind services, Java 1.4 so no
>> > >>> annotations, and maybe a sprinkle of DOJO stuff (hence the
>> reason to
>> > >>> switch to 4.1!!) - would moving from 4.0 to 4.1 be a horrible
>> idea?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I skimmed over a lot of the open issues on JIRA and none seem too
>> > >>> severe, or too widespread to some of the "proven" core of
>> tapestry.
>> > >>> Our application is for our internal staff (a dozen or so), and
>> since
>> > >>> it's relatively small, is usually decently tested for bugs. So
>> it's
>> > >>> not like I'm re-writing Amazon.com or something with Tap4.1 and
>> will
>> > >>> lose billions of dollars over a bug..
>> > >>>
>> > >>> 4.1 looks really nice, and it would be great to jump in, rather
>> then
>> > >>> do it in 4.0 and then re-do it in 4.1 in 6 months. That said,
>> go for
>> > >>> it? All comments apprieciated!
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Thanks,
>> > >>> Greg
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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