Well, Mr. Mind, let me humbly say that I'm not trolling. I'm mentioning things which I know are of great concern to very many people. Having read the following post by you on July 28:
"... the majority of people will expect some kind of backward compatibility between T4 and T5 and that expectation would be natural. Perhaps if T5 is renamed (e.g. 'Tapestries 1.0' or 'Lace 1.0' or sth else) then the expectation about backward compatibility will not be there?" I know you and I are not very far from each other in certain important issues. Being a Tapestry commiter, I wish you could use your influence to discourage all these craziness going on with Tapestry of late. Namely, every major release equals radically re-inventing the wheel disregarding backward compatibility. And that decision made solely by one dictator who wouldn't listen to his users and community. Regards, F On 8/31/06, Mind Bridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Howard sugested Geoff as a Tapestry committer entirely based on his work on Spindle. In addition Geoff specifically asked you NOT to hijack his name for your vendetta. Do the facts matter to you at all? Secondly, I presume you have written code that adds the T4 features to T3, while keeping it absolutely compatible. Is that correct? If this is not so, then your repeated comments are no longer constructive criticism, but trolls instead, aimed to further an agenda that has nothing to do with Tapestry at all. Interestingly, the very fact that you consider Tapestry important enough to warrant your attention means that it is a very good alternative to what you really care about and must be eliminated at all costs. Thank you, we should be honored that you think so highly of Tapestry! Francis Amanfo wrote: > > Henrik, > > Stop dreaming. If what you're saying is valid then we should have got > Spindle for Tap 4 now. > The fact of the matter is Howard just didn't listen to Geoff. With > Howard's > current opinion on tools, I don't think he would make a tool drive his > fanatic and radical design decisions. > > My .02 cent. > F > > On 8/30/06, hv @ Fashion Content <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I think the best thing is building on WST and Tap5, while Tap5 is >> developed. >> The amount of special tooling needed for Tap5 should be limited. >> >> Judging form Geoff's posts the main problem with Spindle for Tap4 is the >> large number of possible ways to configure an application. One of the >> goals >> for Tap5 is to simplify. So if we can start over on a new Spindle while >> Tap5 >> is >> still in its infancy, we can perhaps ensure that the simplicity is >> achieved >> from >> the perspective of tooling. >> >> Henrik >> >> "Hugo Palma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev i en meddelelse >> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Since Geoff decided to leave the Spindle project i've been thinking >> about >> > the future of TapIDEA. As many of you know, TapIDEA is built on top of >> > Spindle, which means "No Spindle" -> "No TapIDEA". >> > >> > There are several scenarios that can be put into account in the current >> > situation, and after a long consideration here are my conclusions. >> > >> > Someone else picks up Spindle where Geoff left off: >> > I honestly don't think this is going to happen. AFAIK Spindle was a one >> > man project so no one else has the know how to quickly get into gear >> with >> > the project. Some might think that that person could be me, and indeed >> > i've become familiar with Spindle internals during the development of >> > TapIDEA. But, there's the free time factor. I just wouldn't be able to >> > find the time to do it. >> > Still, if this scenario were to be become true, TapIDEA would live on. >> > >> > Spindle for T4 dies, a new project is born: >> > Ok, so no Spindle and no TapIDEA for T4. What about T5 ? As Geoff as >> > pointed out, T5 support is going to require an almost complete rewrite >> of >> > Spindle. So, in this scenario someone would implement Spindle(or create >> a >> > whole new project) for IDE support for T5, and TapIDEA would follow. I >> > find that this is the scenario with the most chances of becoming >> reality. >> > >> > Spindle and TapIDEA die for good: >> > Well, there's always the possibility that no one will volunteer to >> > continue our efforts of bringing IDE support to Tapestry. In this >> scenario >> > both Spindle and TapIDEA end their lives now. >> > >> > >> > The TapIDEA project will be "hibernating" until one of these(or any >> other) >> > scenarios become reality. >> > I guess now it's up to the community to present their ideas about this. >> I >> > hope that, together, we can give our contribution to making Tapestry >> IDE >> > support a reality. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> > Hugo >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/TapIDEA-future%2C-post-%22Time-to-move-on%22-tf2179878.html#a6071765 Sent from the Tapestry - User forum at Nabble.com. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
