These points are certainly valid sounding. I don't want people to think I don't care about what the community wants.
My hands are unfortunately tied. I barely have enough time to work on Tapestry as it is, let alone another project like plugins..Trying to find time to work on a project I would never use is something I find hard to swallow. I can only hope if the community wants it bad enough someone will eventually step forward and decide to do it. As much as I think spindle really does provide a lot of value to the community, I personally have used it once - for less than a day. Now a combination of T5 + something like www.eclipse.org/atf ~is~ something I would find personal value in using...That may be something I investigate at some point in the future when both projects mature a little more. I know one of the core devs on that project and how it is laid out, so I don't think adding a "Tapestry" personality would be very far fetched.. Eithery way I don't think Howard or I will be going away anytime soon, which also means T4/T5 won't stop being supported anytime soon. I don't know what else to say...I'm trying my best to do what I can...I can't do everything :( On 8/29/06, Mark Stang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Th original problem was that 3.x needed to evolve. So, 4.x was the next generation. However, as Howard was creating 4.x he realized that he wanted to skip ahead to the next generation of Tapestry. Tapestry users were not ready, so Howard left "4.xers" behind. And Jesse took over the evolution of 4.x. 4.x is very different from 3.x, for people who needed the next generation of Tapestry but couldn't wait for Howard it serves a very valuable purpose. And from what I read on the list, Jesse did a great deal of the work in making it what it is and has done a fine job. I was waiting on Spindle before moving to 4.x. Now what do I do? I guess the question is what of 4.x do I need? For our application, 3.x is doing what we need. And if it is doing what I need what do I gain from 4.x? I guess I would gain that I am on the current release with necessary bug fixes and enhancements. And probably new and improved components. When 5.x comes out, I will have to decide whether to switch or not. Once again what will my ROI be on the move to 5.x? What if I waited for 5.x and it never comes? What if I switch to 4.x and then 5.x arrives shortly after? Will 5.x go the route of Spindle? Bottom-line is that there isn't an intuitively obvious upgrade route. What I have is "FUD", Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. -----Original Message----- From: Jesse Kuhnert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 8/29/2006 10:13 AM To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: Progress Bar It is an open source project, anyone can make Tap3 / 4 / 5 anything they want it to be. I work on 4.X because that's what I currently enjoy. On 8/29/06, Mark Stang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Some of us have a large projects. Or could it be that Tapestry > > 3.999999999999 is so unstable as to be not worth the effort. First, > there isn't a Spindle product, then there is and now there isn't. Then > 4.x is the Holy Grail of web frameworks until Howard starts making is so > incompatible with 3.x that he has to divide it into 4.x and 5.x. And of > the three which is compatible with the others? NONE!!! So, do we upgrade > to 4.x and then later to 5.x or do we skip 4.x because 5.x is coming soon > and who wants to repeat the same upgrade twice or do we sit on 3.x and > wait for the dust to settle. And it is so much fun knowing that we are on a > DEAD branch with no new components or real enhancements. > > I think I will switch to Swing. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jesse Kuhnert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Mon 8/28/2006 7:54 PM > To: Tapestry users > Subject: Re: Progress Bar > > From the sound of things it seems like you must either really enjoy pain > or > have an incredibly large project that would prevent you from upgrading to > 4.1 ;) > > On 8/28/06, Peter Dawn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > guys, > > > > is there a component available for tap3 for a progress bar or anything > > else which can help me display a progress bar. > > > > now i am thinking of generating something myself using a frames and > > constantly updating the main page with the status (1%, 50%, 100% and > > so on). this can be using either css or something else. but if there > > is something within tapestry i can use, it would save me time. > > > > any ideas. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -- > Jesse Kuhnert > Tapestry/Dojo/(and a dash of TestNG), team member/developer > > Open source based consulting work centered around > dojo/tapestry/tacos/hivemind. http://blog.opencomponentry.com > > > -- Jesse Kuhnert Tapestry/Dojo/(and a dash of TestNG), team member/developer Open source based consulting work centered around dojo/tapestry/tacos/hivemind. http://blog.opencomponentry.com
-- Jesse Kuhnert Tapestry/Dojo/(and a dash of TestNG), team member/developer Open source based consulting work centered around dojo/tapestry/tacos/hivemind. http://blog.opencomponentry.com
