> In my personal ideal world, Spring would have implemented the
> namespacing,
> abstraction, visibility and distributed configuration features he
> needs, and
> we could all reuse our Spring knowledge when we find we need to extend
> Tap5.
> At this point all I can hope for is that they implement some of that
> stuff
> in time for Tap6 :-)

Why? Tapestry is apparently not interested in backwards compatibility and
the rest of all the shebang! :-)

My very personal 2c. But before I continu, I'll explain my situation
(probably very much like others here on the list).

For 2 recent missions I wanted to use Tapestry as a solution for the
clients problem. In both cases we did a proper market research and both
times Tap4 came out as being the best, be it not the simplest of them.
Anyway, none of the project completed succesfully for several reasons that
had nothing to do with Tap4 as such but one of the complaints was that
Tap4 was to hard to learn (this might say something about the clients dev
team but that's beside the point).
I can't say that I'm very knowledgeable in the mystic art of Tap4. I try
but since my current assignment does not include Tap4, and my free time is
a rare commodity, I'm just lurking on the list to try to keep up.

My worries are indeed that if Tap5 breaks all ties with Tap4, I will again
have to invest lots of time in something that does *not* garantee any
backwardscompatibility. For me, being a contractor, it does not realy
makes an issue since once the job is done, I move on. But I can't sell
that to the client! They want the illusion of things being able to run for
years and years. Also, since the java world is moving very fast (with lots
of framworks, lots of choice), haveing to relearn the same thing over and
over is kinda tiresome and might changes the selection criteria I use for
selecting a framework in the future.

In conclusion, change is good, progress does come at a cost but support
comes from the community. No one wants a high-tech, top-notch framework
that is only sustained by a group of fanatical persons. I sounds good, but
it doesn't sell. Not now, never will.

BB
Peter


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