I believe, correct me if I am wrong, that Tapestry 4.x++ will always have a way 
to work with JavaScript off.  We have run into clients (US Military) that turn 
off JavaScript.  And we have one client that racheted IE up to level 3 security 
which disabled the iFrame.  We have some Tapestry components that rely heavily 
on JavaScript and I think we may have to rewrite them.  So, I think that at 
some "global" level, we need to have Standard Tapestry Components that do NOT 
depend on JavaScript.  And someway to turn if off.

Thoughts?

Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: KE Gan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mon 6/26/2006 10:27 PM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: Tapestry and Dojo and Tapestry 4.1
 
So most likely Tapestry 4.1's core components will make use of Dojo already
:) ?

Actually, my initial question is to understand "how much" Dojo integration
into Tapestry will change the event-based web development as we know it
today (as in Tapestry 4.0.2) ? Since Dojo provides XMLHttpRequest; will this
usage somehow by-pass Tapestry altogether ? Or Tapestry 4.1 will come with
the framework that will let the Ajax calls be part of Tapestry event based
framework ?

Thanks.


On 6/26/06, Jesse Kuhnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Tapestry 4.1 initially comes with support for dojo only, but I have built
> a
> set of interfaces/hivemind services that will allow anyone to override the
> behaviour of the built-in toolkit (dojo), or provide their own toolkit
> integration.
>
> The relationship between tacos is that I did most of my initial tapestry
> contributions in the tacos library (along with Felix Sun/Andreas
> Andreaou/Leonardo ) . It isn't clear yet where each individual component
> should live, but Tapestry 4.1 will definitely be handling all of the
> infrastructure work as much as possible. It shouldn't be very hard for
> people to create tacos-like components once the release comes out. (ie
> much
> less work involved now)
>
> On 6/26/06, Shing Hing Man <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I do not know the answer to your question.
> > More precisely, I am not sure whether tacos will be
> > incoporated into Tapestry 4.1 or
> > Tapestry 4.1 will have the infrasturcture
> > to use Ajax toolkit other than dojo.
> >
> > Shing
> >
> >
> > --- KE Gan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Shing,
> > >
> > > I have read about Tacos. From my understanding, The
> > > integration of Dojo into
> > > Tapestry4.1 and Tacos are two different thing ... am
> > > I right ? Or do they
> > > play together somehow ?
> > >
> > > ~KEGan
> > >
> > >
> > > On 6/25/06, Shing Hing Man <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If you have not checked out the helloword
> > > > example in tacos wiki,
> > > > at
> > > > http://tacoscomponents.jot.com/WikiHome
> > > >
> > > > you might like take a look at that.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Shing
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- KE Gan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am finishing up (and launching) a project
> > > using
> > > > > Tapestry 4.0.2 soon. I am
> > > > > planning to incorporate some Ajax goodness into
> > > the
> > > > > next phase of the
> > > > > project.
> > > > >
> > > > > I understand that Tapestry 4.1 incorporate the
> > > Dojo
> > > > > Toolkit. I am kind of
> > > > > new to Dojo. Anyone know any example on using
> > > > > Tapestry with Dojo ? and What
> > > > > is the significance of the integration (of Dojo
> > > in
> > > > > Tapestry) ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Home page :
> > > > http://uk.geocities.com/matmsh/index.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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