Re: new logo for Tapestry

Fri, 19 May 2006 06:54:03 -0700

Hate to break it to you, but management has *no* idea what the Apache feather looks like or means. Sorry! 

I do think the "tryout factor" for developers is a good point.
However, I think the more common approach of placing the Apache logo alongside ours serves all the purposes you mention, without burdening the logo.
And it *does* burden the logo. The Apache project logos attempting to integrate a feather generally don't look as good, IMO. Geronimo? Eh. Boring. Didn't even see the feathers until I was looking for them. Spamassasin? Tomcat? Ant? Slick! Looking sharp! 

Cheers,

Paul

On May 19, 2006, at 2:12 AM, Peter Svensson wrote:
My reason for wanted an Apache reference (apart from the obvious fact the Apache supports the project) is that, as someone recently mentioned, gets the attention of management. Otherwise Tapestry is just another framework. few have worked with it, and the only way you can feel the nejoyment , as it 
were, is to try it out.
I'd wager that we would have easily twice the try-out factor if the Apache refernce was clear rather than not, which would benefit Tapestry (and us) in 
the end.

Then again, it doesn't have to be the feather, it might be tricky to
integrate in the "T" design tat forms the base of most proposals. Maybe just the text "Apache" or "An Apache Project", perhaps as an option, sometimes 
you have it, sometimes not, whatever, but still...

When in Rome, do as the Romulans  :)

Cheers,
PS

On 5/19/06, Schulte Marcus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Actually, I think the spam assassin logo does a great
job in referencing Apache without just copy-pasting the feather -
and thus without sacrificing the integrity of the design.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Cantrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 10:44 PM
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: Re: new logo for Tapestry
>
>
> You mean like Ant, Tomcat, Cocoon, Excalibur, and SpamAssassin?
>
> Oh, wait, *none* of them do....
>
> http://ant.apache.org/images/ant_logo_large.gif
> http://tomcat.apache.org/images/tomcat.gif
> http://cocoon.apache.org/images/cocoon-logo.gif
> http://excalibur.apache.org/logo.gif
> http://spamassassin.apache.org/images/arrowlogo.png
>
> I don't like the version with the feather. It's awkward.
>
> On May 18, 2006, at 3:26 PM, James Carman wrote:
>
> > Well, tapestry *is* an Apache top-level project now (and an Apache > > "product"). I think it's very important that we include the "apache 
> > feather."
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Konstantin Ignatyev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 4:22 PM
> > To: Tapestry users
> > Subject: Re: new logo for Tapestry
> >
> > I think the first image is just fine.
> >
> > IMO logo should be free of any references to Apache or any other
> > projects or
> > organizations for that matter. If there will be Apache
> feather then
> > why now
> > add that cup of cofee, or make it cup of ink and put the
> feather in
> > it ;).
> >
> >
> >
> > Borut Bolčina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Here, I took the liberty of
> > recreating
> > the background. Geoff, I hope you
> > dont't mind.
> > http://svarog.homeip.net/tapestry-logo/logo.png
> >
> > What do you say?
> >
> > -Borut
> >
> >
> > Geoff Longman pravi:
> >> Have a look at the Spindle logo at http://spindle.sf.net
> >>
> >> Behind the swoopy S is a version of the old T logo I like a lot - 
> >> looks like an architectural drawing.
> >>
> >> Alas, I lost the original vector artwork for that logo long ago.
> >>
> >> Geoff
> >>
> >> On 5/17/06, Steven Bell  wrote:
> >>> I must say I like Dwi Ardi Irawan's logo for three main reasons. 
> >>>
> >>> It's simple.
> >>> It scales nicely. (I think this is very important!)
> >>> It looks professional.
> >>>
> >>> And on top of that it looks really good.
> >>>
> >>> On 5/17/06, Fernando Padilla  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I sort of like the basic T logo, this one is along the
> same lines.
> >>>>
> >>>> another brainstorm: take a weave pattern like old windows
> >>>> background,
> >>>> but highlight a few bits of the weave to have a T come out of it. > >>>> Basically take the current logo, but add a weave pattern in the 
> >>>> background in very light grey..
> >>>>
> >>>> Dwi Ardi Irawan wrote:
> >>>>> it's just my opinion.....
> >>>>> tapestry logo
> >>>>>
> >>>>> i think
> >>>>> tapestry logo competition just use for the best logo and
> >>> represent the
> >>>>> tapestry meaning
> >>>>>
> >>>>> cmiiw
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
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> >>> Steven Bell
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>
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