On Thu, 15 Dec 2016 20:20:02 +0000
David Jones wrote:

> >From: Martin Gregorie <mar...@gregorie.org>
> >Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 1:39 PM
> >To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
> >Subject: Re: recent increase in spam getting through  
>     
> >On Thu, 2016-12-15 at 18:23 +0000, David Jones wrote:  
> >> There are many valuable SMTP realtime checks that must be done at
> >> the edge MTA.  Since you don't have control of this, then you have
> >> to resort to tuning SA constantly which is a never-ending game of
> >> cat-n-mouse since spam changes characteristics all of the time.
> >>   
> >It doen't *have* to be done at the edge MTA provided you are happy to
> >accept and then bin the junk rather than rejecting it. My system has
> >been working this way for years..  
> 
> True but one would have to know to put your ISP's mail server range
> into the trusted_networks/internal_networks in SA.  

If you are using getmail/fetchmail it commonly just works. SA has
explicit support for fetchmail, and getmail headers are unparseable.
Either way there is typically a chain of private and localhost IP
addresses up to the MX server.


> If you pull email later from an ISP mailbox, then RBLs
> could have changed during that time.  

Actually RBLs and other network rules are much more effective with a
delay. That's why problem FN's that are posted here usually get huge
scores when retested. I find that about half the spam that I download
with getmail hits RCVD_IN_XBL even though its already been through an
MTA XBL check (including a variable greylisting delay). 

A secondary advantage of the higher scores is that very little spam
ends up with a score close to 5, so if you have a separate folder for
high-scoring spam, any FPs stand-out much more clearly.

> Also the DNS server used by
> client running SA post-MTA could cause the dreaded URIBL_BLOCKED
> hit.  In my opinion, it makes a complex software twice as complex to
> run it post-MTA.

Avoiding URIBL_BLOCKED is something you need to do when you run
SpamAssassin irrespective of how your mail arrives. Setting-up
resolver+SA is not twice as hard as setting-up resolver+SA+MTA.

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