On 15/02/2016 09:02, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 14.02.2016 um 23:34 schrieb Noel Butler:
On 14/02/2016 01:46, Alex wrote:
rejecting outright at the SMTP level for IPs reaching my honeypots
could be dangerous if not checked.
how so? if your honey pots use specific non human used (ever)
addresses,
then there should never ever be a genuine mail destined for it.
I dont care who the connector is, be it foobar.com or gmail.com if
they
relay it, they are listed, its where spamhaus and I always disagreed,
because what they are doing is sending a clear message to spammers to
simply "use gmail" to avoid being listed in spamhaus.
You are never too big to be stuffed into a dnsbl, there are a number
of
well known bl's that have been around for over ten years that also
take
that approach.
you missed to say that you are the type RBL operator which lists whole
subnets (in not only personal RBL's) because you don't like specific
people on mailing-lists
Ohh, so you wanna bring this up again in public do you, fine by me...
lets have some history though shall we Harry...
Most DNSBL's blacklist spam *and* abusive hosts, there is no question
about you spamming, I know you don't and would never do that, but you
are/were a very very aggressively abusive person - this is supported by
all those mailing lists bannings/moderations you've copped over recent
years which we need both hands to count, the listing I placed on you was
not just because of the abuse and blackmailing you leveled at me, but
number of complaints we received also.
Further more, most people who've had interactions with you over the past
couple of years, espeically those that you've disagreed with also know
how you used to act, and occasionally still come close to, because you
think you are always right and anyone who disagrees with you is the anti
christ or something.
Ordinarily this does just warrant a /32 listing, however as a system
administrator with access to at least a /24, and evidence of your
mailing list ghost accounts, including at least one I recall from
another IP in that /24 a while back, yes, I took the step to block your
/24.
also you don't realize that this don't stop any single mail from a
list sent by that person but just harms other domains using the SMTP
server
I realise a lot more than you think, as I've told you, and told you, and
told you, its up to lists what DNSBL's if any they use, but you are
known to, on the lists youve been moderated on, send abusive messages to
recipients directly since you can't via the lists
so it does have a catching effect of those who use it.
so *you* are hardly in the position for education about RBL's since
you don't care about any collateral damage but only your ego
You are entitled to your opinion, I care about valid collateral damage,
if you abuse an employers resources and your employers customers are
caught up on it, your employer, if they care, would take appropriate
action, it is no different than blocking a domain for spamming, forcing
the host to clean up its act and get rid of its spamming clients, of
course at no time did I wish to see your employment terminated, just
actions reigned in, resulting in cleaner transmissions, allowing for
removal of blocking, just like networks that clean up spam.
I have seen you have remarkable behaved yourself in past 6 months
compared to how you used to carry on, your still no saint, but no one
including me is either.
This list is also off topic and I apologise to Gunther and co for
replying to it on list, but some things needed to be said. No doubt
Harry will rant and rave and carry on trollbaiting me, but I will try
with-hold any further responses since, we are, well and truly OT.
Have a nice day.
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