Hi,

On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas
<uh...@fantomas.sk> wrote:
>> On 10.12.15 22:54, Alex wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't understand why a message from tripadvisor.com would have
>>> SPF_FAIL, and as part of trying to understand how SPF works, I'd like
>>> to figure out what's happening.
>>>
>>> Would someone be able to take a look at this message and figure out
>>> why mail from tripadvisor.com fails SPF?
>>>
>>> http://pastebin.com/36hzGcTs
>
>
> On 11.12.15 08:56, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
>>
>> the envelope sender seems to be
>> bounce-15_html-74319930-51788793-10834732...@bounce.e.tripadvisor.com
>>
>> bounce.e.tripadvisor.com seems to have no SPF record, so I also don't
>> understand why SPF tests should hit at all, maybe SPF HELO tests...
>
> disregard, please. I made an mistype when checking the SPF records.
>
> The main reason why the mail hits SPF_FAIL is that you don't trust even
> servers
> you receive mail from - first three hops:
>
> h02p01.smtp.routit.net (h02p01.smtp.routit.net [89.146.30.9])
> pop3.routit.net ([213.144.235.7])
> h03p02.smtp.routit.net (h03p02.smtp.routit.net [89.146.30.18])

Is it possible this message was forwarded, breaking the trust path?

Reindal wrote:
> who is that?
> Received: from h03p02.smtp.routit.net (h03p02.smtp.routit.net [89.146.30.18]) 
> by pop3.routit.net (Postfix)
> with ESMTP id D0A1B42463
>for <wytze.vandenb...@example.nl>; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 02:18:21 +0100 (CET)
>
> who is that?
> Received: from pop3.routit.net ([213.144.235.7]) by h02p01.smtp.routit.net 
> with ESMTP; 11
> Dec 2015 02:18:26 +0100
>
> who is that?
> Received: from h02p01.smtp.routit.net (h02p01.smtp.routit.net [89.146.30.9]) 
> by bwimail02.example.com
> (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F8CA345F25 for <wytze.vandenb...@example.com>; Thu, 
> 10 Dec
> 2015 20:18:38 -0500 (EST)

We're not responsible for the example.nl domain, so I don't understand
where that came from. Perhaps that account forwarded it to the
wytze.vandenb...@example.com (our domain) without any other
indications of that having occurred, breaking the trust path?

> that are in X-Spam-RelaysUntrusted header.
>
> the next server in path is:
> mta3.e.tripadvisor.com ([66.231.81.9])
>
> that passes the SPF test.

What did you need to do to test this?

Thanks again,
Alex

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