Am 14.09.2015 um 01:35 schrieb Greg Troxel:
Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net> writes:

RPM packages are not supposed to contact network *3rd party*
ressources at install time and when you think 1 second you know why -
who tells you that the 3rd party ressource is available at that moment
and how handle errors and bugreports when it fails?

that will never happen in a distribution package - no idea why you
think we need to discuss that or even you can consider something as
bug when you obviously have no expierience with distributions..

In pkgsrc, it is also considered a bug for a package installation to use
the net.   Our spamassassin package doesn't, and users have to run
sa-update before starting it after upgrades.   This seems broken to me;
it seems that a release should come with rules, even if we know that
people should be updating to more modern ones.   This seems to be a
recent change; I don't remember getting bit by it until just now.

it *comes* with rules but at least with 3.4.1 there where crashes without reported running "sa-update", there are always the default scores and rules besides /var/lib/spamassassin

rpm -q --filesbypkg spamassassin | grep /usr/share/spamassassin/
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/10_default_prefs.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/10_hasbase.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/20_advance_fee.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/20_aux_tlds.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/20_body_tests.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/20_compensate.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/20_dnsbl_tests.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/20_drugs.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/20_dynrdns.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/20_fake_helo_tests.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/20_freemail.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/20_freemail_domains.cf
spamassassin /usr/share/spamassassin/20_freemail_mailcom_domains.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/20_head_tests.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/20_html_tests.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/20_imageinfo.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/20_mailspike.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/20_meta_tests.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/20_net_tests.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/20_pdfinfo.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/20_phrases.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/20_porn.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/20_ratware.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/20_uri_tests.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/20_vbounce.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/23_bayes.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/25_accessdb.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/25_antivirus.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/25_asn.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/25_dcc.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/25_dkim.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/25_hashcash.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/25_pyzor.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/25_razor2.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/25_replace.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/25_spf.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/25_textcat.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/25_uribl.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/30_text_de.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/30_text_fr.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/30_text_it.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/30_text_nl.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/30_text_pl.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/30_text_pt_br.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/50_scores.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/60_adsp_override_dkim.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/60_awl.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/60_shortcircuit.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/60_whitelist.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/60_whitelist_dkim.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/60_whitelist_spf.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/60_whitelist_subject.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/72_active.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/72_scores.cf
spamassassin /usr/share/spamassassin/73_sandbox_manual_scores.cf spamassassin /usr/share/spamassassin/STATISTICS-set0-72_scores.cf.txt spamassassin /usr/share/spamassassin/STATISTICS-set1-72_scores.cf.txt spamassassin /usr/share/spamassassin/STATISTICS-set2-72_scores.cf.txt spamassassin /usr/share/spamassassin/STATISTICS-set3-72_scores.cf.txt
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/languages
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/local.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/regression_tests.cf
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/sa-update-pubkey.txt
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/sa-update.cron
spamassassin              /usr/share/spamassassin/user_prefs.template

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