On 03/28/2015 06:47 AM, Rob McEwen wrote:
On 3/27/2015 10:13 PM, David Jones wrote:
The invaluement RBL is not expensive either and it is awesome.  We pay
thousands per year for
a Spamhaus feed because of our volume and mailboxes.  The invaluement
RBL is only hundreds
per year and it's almost as good as Spamhaus Zen.  I have Spamhaus in
front of invaluement  in
my postfix configuration but I may try flipping the order just to see
if it will start blocking more
than Spamhaus.

Just to clarify, the two invaluement sender's IP blacklists, ivmSIP and
ivmSIP/24, --combined-- is not (and will probably not ever be) an
adequate replacement for Spamhaus's Zen list. So please everyone, don't
get the idea that you can turn off Zen, add invaluement, and everything
will be ok. David Jones was NOT saying that... but i just want to make
sure that nobody mistakenly goes too far with this, beyond what David
intended.

Having said that... thanks, David, (and others) for your mentioning
about your success with ivmSIP and ivmSIP/24, where they are helping you
block much of the spam that slips past Spamhaus, etc.


When using SA, there is *ONE* good reason NOT to reject with the IVM lists:

IVM rules can be safely scored/meta'd & tflaged in such a way that the hits make perfect Bayes autolearn fodder .-)

of course, we already know that autolearn is evil, useless and whatever other theories may apply - not worth yet another argument.




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