Am 18.02.2015 um 11:41 schrieb @lbutlr:
On 18 Feb 2015, at 02:06 , Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net> wrote:

Am 18.02.2015 um 05:50 schrieb @lbutlr:
On 17 Feb 2015, at 15:46 , Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net> wrote:
because in a default milter-setup the one and only user is the user which SA 
and the miler service are running as, hence my script which needs maybe small 
adjustments for your environment (--no-sync and so on depend on the config, 
directories needs to exist and permissions for samples needs to be correct)

Right. I’m going through your scripts now. They look interesting and with only 
a few weeks should drop in perfectly.

no mysql and what not, just a default bayes-db, two traing-folders for ham and 
spam and the script for feed new eml-samples as well as the option for ac 
omplete rebuild based on the current samples, the corpus will stay forever on 
that machines and samples are named YYYY-mm-dd-number.eml

Setting up the spam and ham corpus separately is  on thing holding me up right 
now

how else will you train??

From existing mail in select users (who are known to mark their mail).

train a global bayes by user decisions?
forget it without a review

not only once, the last time yesterday i called a user by phone and asked "seriously? you want to train the message you moved in my IMAP folder as spam just because someone wrote to your office address, searched who are the two persons by name and would like work togehter with you?"

the key part is tell the bayes "this is spam" and "this is ham”

Yep. So far, attempts to train the spam from spamassmilter do not seem to be 
resulting in the DB files I’d expect to find in /var/spool/spamd which is the 
$HOME for the spamd user.

man you need to provide some informations
you need to call "sa-learn" exactly as the user running spamd / milter with that home-directory and to be honest i would find it pervert using /var/spool for the userhome and bayes-database

sa-milt:x:189:188:SpamAssassin Milter:/var/lib/spamass-milter:/usr/bin/dash

ls /var/lib/spamass-milter/.spamassassin/
insgesamt 35M
-rw------- 1 sa-milt sa-milt 2,6M 2015-02-18 11:44 bayes_seen
-rw------- 1 sa-milt sa-milt  40M 2015-02-18 11:44 bayes_toks
-rw------- 1 sa-milt sa-milt   98 2015-02-17 11:37 user_prefs

sa-milt 477 0.0 2.5 289776 77440 ? SNs 04:16 0:21 /usr/bin/perl -T -w /usr/bin/spamd -c -H --max-children=25 --min-children=10 --min-spare=5 --max-spare=15 --port=10028 sa-milt 4945 0.0 0.1 584328 4080 ? SNsl Feb17 0:19 /usr/sbin/spamass-milter -p /run/spamass-milter/spamass-milter.sock -g sa-milt -r 8.0 -- -s 5242880 --port=10028
sa-milt  30625  1.6  3.7 332124 116528 ?       SN   11:44   0:04 spamd child
sa-milt  30626  0.4  2.5 293884 79328 ?        SN   11:44   0:01 spamd child
sa-milt  30627  0.0  2.3 289776 71036 ?        SN   11:44   0:00 spamd child
sa-milt  30628  0.0  2.3 289776 71108 ?        SN   11:44   0:00 spamd child
sa-milt  30629  0.0  2.3 289776 71036 ?        SN   11:44   0:00 spamd child
sa-milt  30630  0.0  2.3 289776 70972 ?        SN   11:44   0:00 spamd child
sa-milt  30631  0.0  2.3 289776 70972 ?        SN   11:44   0:00 spamd child
sa-milt  30632  0.0  2.3 289776 70972 ?        SN   11:44   0:00 spamd child
sa-milt  30633  0.0  2.3 289776 70976 ?        SN   11:44   0:00 spamd child
sa-milt  30634  0.0  2.3 289776 70976 ?        SN   11:44   0:00 spamd child
sa-milt  30635  0.0  2.3 289776 70976 ?        SN   11:44   0:00 spamd child
sa-milt  30636  0.0  2.3 289776 70976 ?        SN   11:44   0:00 spamd child
sa-milt  30637  0.0  2.3 289776 70976 ?        SN   11:44   0:00 spamd child
sa-milt  30638  0.0  2.3 289776 70980 ?        SN   11:44   0:00 spamd child
sa-milt  30639  0.0  2.3 289776 70980 ?        SN   11:44   0:00 spamd child



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