> On 12 Feb 2015, at 19:05 , David B Funk <dbf...@engineering.uiowa.edu> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 12 Feb 2015, LuKreme wrote:
> 
>> An email from the New York times daily headlines service is hitting Bayes_99 
>> and Bayes_999
>> 
>> pts rule name              description
>> ---- ---------------------- 
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> 4.0 BAYES_99               BODY: Bayes spam probability is 99 to 100%
>>                           [score: 1.0000]
>> 0.2 BAYES_999              BODY: Bayes spam probability is 99.9 to 100%
>>                           [score: 1.0000]
>> 0.7 MIME_HTML_ONLY         BODY: Message only has text/html MIME parts
>> 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE           BODY: HTML included in message
>> -0.1 DKIM_VERIFIED          No description available.
>> -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU          Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from 
>> author's
>>                           domain
>> 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED            Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not 
>> necessarily valid
>> 3.0 DCC_CHECK              Detected as bulk mail by DCC (dcc-servers.net)
>> -0.1 DKIM_VALID             Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK 
>> signature
>> 0.0 UNPARSEABLE_RELAY      Informational: message has unparseable relay lines
>> 0.5 MISSING_MID            Missing Message-Id: header
>> 
>> I’m curious about the two bayes hits and also the 3 points for bulk mail for 
>> something that I can’t see anyone would consider to be actual spam. Oh, and 
>> why is babes_999 so low scoring?
> 
> Where'd you get that score of 3.0 for DCC_CHECK, mine is 1.1. DCC is a bulk 
> mail
> detection service, not spam detection.

Probably in local.cf then. I’ve commented out all the score adjustments in 
there for right now.

> Those BAYES_99 & BAYES_999 hits for a bulk-but-solicted mail really say
> "mis-trained Bayes".
> For New York Times subscriptions my users usually hit either BAYES_00 or 
> BAYES_05.

Yeah, in my own email NYT hits bayes_00.

I just switched to using spamass-milter:

/usr/local/sbin/spamass-milter -f -p /var/run/spamass-milter.sock -u spamd -r 9 
-- -s 5242880

And it occurs to me that maybe it is not picking up bayes properly.

Should I train bayes as the spamd user?

use_bayes 1
bayes_auto_learn 1
bayes_store_module Mail::SpamAssassin::BayesStore::SQL
bayes_sql_dsn DBI:mysql:bayes:localhost:3306
bayes_sql_username user
bayes_sql_password *pass*
bayes_sql_override_username user

> That BAYES_999 is an addition to BAYES_99 thus the small score. It's more
> intended to be used as "meta fodder" (or re-scored based on your trust of
> your Bayes).

OK, that makes sense.

When I make changes to local.cf do I need to restart SA or does it relied that 
file if it sees it’s changed?

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