Re: sa-update cron failure

[Reindl Harald]

Am 05.02.2015 um 22:50 schrieb Bob Proulx:

Reindl Harald wrote:

schrieb Bob Proulx:

Seeing SHELL=/usr/bin/bash I must comment that the setting is quite
unusual.  It would normally be /bin/sh.  Or on some systems be
/bin/bash.  It is quite unusual to see /usr/bin/bash there

it was /bin/bash in the past but why should i define a path pointing to a
symlink when i have no single setup to maintain not have /bin as symlink to
/usr/bin and that won't change in the futrue, RHEL7 is at the same state

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove

I think it should be /bin/sh because standard is better than better.

the OS defaults are still /bin/sh
i don't care about defaults

They are producing gratuitous system differences for no good reason.

not true - hence the symlink and "they" are in the meantime not only fedora, google will show....

And that is also why I don't understand the move from /bin/* to
/usr/bin/* and the same for lib and others.  That makes the "usr" part
completely useless

maybe you should read the page i linked
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove#Current_status

the UsrMove is *not new* , happened years ago and happend on other unix variants long before fedora while other Linux distributions followed in the meantime

It would be better to move everything from
/usr/bin/* up to /bin/* instead and the same for lib and the others.
I think they are moving things in the wrong direction.  The primary
location is /bin and /usr/bin was simply the secondary overflow
location.  But now they have lost the primary location and only have
the secondary.  That is the wrong direction.

complete nonsense

you can not move anything below /usr/ in the rootfs and if it only because /usr/local and only move the contents of /usr/bin/ around breaks most setups and shebangs - get rid of /bin and /sbin while place symlinks below / don't inavlidate any existing reference /bin was for cases with /usr on a sepearte partition to contain only the minimal tools for basic admin tasks and that never worked really well because missing pieces and not much testing for that cases in real operations it don't help you much that the teory is fine when tools are simply not working in emergency mode because needed pieces are not mounted

But of course this is a topic for other places not here.  Sigh.

indeed

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