On Thu, 13 Nov 2014, listsb-spamassas...@bitrate.net wrote:

all of the emotional postulative opining aside, one possibility i have been considering is having postfix delay relay of messages to the content filter for a few minutes, as it seems that when these messages reach us, they're only minutes away from being matched by network tests [this is what i asked postfix-users about]. i'm interested to hear from folks on this list regarding this idea, as well as possible alternatives to dealing with this phenomenon.

It's called greylisting and many people (including myself) have good results with it.

It is not, however, a panacaea.

if you're in a business environment you may have an uphill battle with managing expectations, to wit: email is *not* intended to be instant messaging - and may run up against the brick wall of management not being willing to delay emails from prospective new paying clients *at all*. So its attractiveness will depend on your userbase.

There are also historical problems with some MTAs that do not react properly when told "go away for a few minutes". There are some that will either never deliver the mail, or will incorrectly return it to the sender as "undeliverable" rather than retrying after a delay. I think, though, that the instance of broken mailers like that has gone way down over time. Others may have more up-to-date information on that aspect, I've been out of day-to-day monking for a decade now.

There are also misconfigured MTAs that *will* retry, but only at large intervals (like 24 hours).

Known sites using problematic MTAs can be whitelisted, as can known correspondents (e.g. regular clients).

The tools do exist and are mature and well-known, and doing this is perfectly valid per the SMTP spec.

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