On Tue, 2014-10-28 at 11:19 -0700, jdebert wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 04:27:14 +0100
> Karsten Bräckelmann <guent...@rudersport.de> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2014-10-27 at 19:44 -0700, jdebert wrote:
> > > Redirecting them makes people lazy. Better than annoying but they
> > > don't learn anything except to repeat their mistakes.
> >
> > Your assumption, the list moderators (aka owner, me being one of them)
> > would simply and silently obey and dutifully do the un-subscription
> > for them, is flawed. ;)
>
> This assumption is unwarranted. I did not say that.
You said that the unsubscribe-to-list posting user would not learn and
get lazy, when those posts get redirected to the owner rather than
hitting the list.
Not learning: False. As I said, moderators would respond with
explanation and instructions. In particular learning about his mistake
and how to properly (and in future) unsubscribe, does make him learn.
Since we'd not just unsub him, the user will even have to proof that he
learned, by following procedures unsubscribing himself.
Getting lazy: People are lazy. But since there's absolutely nothing we
would simply do for them, there's no potential in the process to get
lazy over. They will have to read and understand how to do it. And they
will have to follow every step of the unsub procedure themselves.
So if my assumption was really that unwarranted, please explain what
else you did mean with those two sentences.
> Did you read the rest of the message?
Yes. And quite frankly, "catching unsub messages and bouncing them with
a note" as you mentioned is almost identical to the proposed "redirect
them to owner" to handle it. With the latter involving moderators,
having the advantage, that we can and will offer additional help if need
be.
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