On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 16:21:48 +0200
Axb wrote:

> On 09/12/2014 03:48 PM, RW wrote:
> > There's a qualitative difference between a threshold of 0.1 and
> > -1.0. At 0.1 ham can be learned just by not hitting any spam tests,
> 
> Which means that FNs get easily learnt as ham, which is what we're 
> trying to avoid.

You're assuming that broad and balanced learning with a little
miss-training is necessarily worse than any kind of learning without
miss-training.

My point is not that 0.1 is better, just that it's better understood. At
-1.0 the training will be sensitive to custom rules and some of the
most variable quality stock rules there are - rules that are often
zeroed or made positive. 

As an extreme example, someone might try it and think it's working well,
while it's learning nothing more than autogenerated mail from a single
website due to one custom rule with a negative score. 

If I relied on auto-training I wouldn't drop the threshold to -1.0
without determining what extra custom rules are needed to keep the
training broad.  

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