Am 30.08.2014 um 00:35 schrieb Karsten Bräckelmann:
> On Fri, 2014-08-29 at 12:02 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> Am 29.08.2014 um 04:03 schrieb Karsten Bräckelmann:
> 
>>> Now, moving forward: I've had a look at the message diffs. Quite
>>> interesting, and I honestly want to figure out what's happening.
>>
>> it looks really like spamass-milter is responsible
>>
>> in the second version below it whines it can't extract
>> the score to decide if it's above reject and so it
>> really looks like the milter heavily relies on headers
> 
> Yay for case in-sensitive parsing...
> 
>> found that out much later last night by plaing with headers in general
>>
>> spamass-milter[14891]: Could not extract score from <Yes: Score=5.7, 
>> Tag-Level=5.0, Block-Level=10>
>>
>> add_header all Status _YESNO_, score=_SCORE_, tag-level=_REQD_, 
>> block-level=10
>> add_header all Status _YESNO_, Score=_SCORE_, Tag-Level=_REQD_, 
>> Block-Level=10
> 
> If you use the SA default Status header, or at least the prefix
> containing score and required, is header rewriting retained by the
> milter without the Flag header?
> 
>   add_header all Status "_YESNO_, score=_SCORE_ required=_REQD_ ..."

yes, that's what i tried to express

"score=" instead of "Score=" is liked by the milter
well, no big deal, i would have preferred it "score" or "Yes/No" also starzing 
lowercase :-)

> Given that log line, a likely explanation simply is that the milter
> needs to determine the spam status, to decide which SA generated headers
> to apply to the message. Your choice of custom Status header is not what
> the milter expects, and thus needs to resort to the simple Flag header.
> 
> (Note the comma after yes/no, but no comma between score and required.)

it's really only s versus S in score, tried it out before my post

>>> First of all, minus all those different datetime strings, IDs and
>>> ordering, the real differences are
>>>
>>>   -Subject: [SPAM] Test^M
>>>   -X-Spam-Flag: Yes^M
>>>
>>>   +Subject: Test^M
>>>
>>> So it appears that only the sample with add_header spam Flag has the
>>> Subject re-written.
>>
>> correct
>>
>>> However, there's something else going on. When re-writing the Subject
>>> header, SA adds an X-Spam-Prev-Subject header with the original. Which
>>> is clearly missing.
>>
>> the version is killed in smtp_header_checks which is also
>> the reason that i started to play around with headers
>>
>> nobody but me has a reason to know exact versions of running software
> 
> Previous-Subject, not Version.

i saw that somewhere in the debug options and wondered too

but i referred to the SA version header because doc says you
can't remove it and so i explained why it's not there

> I mentioned this specifically, because the absence of the Previous
> Subject header with Subject rewrite clearly shows, SA generated headers
> are not unconditionally added to the message, but single headers are
> cherry picked.
> 
> IOW, header rewriting does work without the Flag header. It is the glue
> that decides whether to inherit the rewritten header, and outright
> ignores the Previous Subject header.

yep - as said: the intention of my post to that topic was only
to make public how i fixed it before someone in the future
wastes his time with outdated google hits mentioning no
longer existing options which are not the reason in that
case

well, now i know that the milter relies on SA generated headers
which was totally unexpected and i work with a lot of server
software for many years - give me my daily WTF :-)

>>> Thus, something else has a severe impact on which headers are added or
>>> modified. In *both* cases, there is at least one SA generated header
>>> missing and/or SA modified header not preserved

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