On Aug 8, 2013, at 10:49 PM, John Hardin <jhar...@impsec.org> wrote:

> On Thu, 8 Aug 2013, Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote:
> 
>> For SA 3.4.0, it says in 50_scores.cf:
>> 
>> #  SPF
>> #  Note that the benefit for a valid SPF record is deliberately minimal; it's
>> #  likely that more spammers would quickly move to setting valid SPF records
>> #  otherwise.  The penalties for an *incorrect* record, however, are large. 
>> ;)
>> 
>> However, ".001" does not seem LARGE to me at all.  I would expect at least a 
>> "1".  Right now there is tons of facebook spam out there that clearly fails 
>> SPF, such as the following:
>> 
>> 
>> X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.407 tagged_above=-10 required=3
>>       tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, DKIM_ADSP_ALL=0.8,
>>       HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST=0.001,
>>       HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, KHOP_BIG_TO_CC=0.001, RDNS_NONE=0.793,
>>       SPF_FAIL=0.001, T_HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.01] autolearn=no
>> 
>> How is .001 in any way considered a "large" penalty?
> 
> SPF is _by itself_ not useful as a spam sign.
> 
> If you're seeing a lot of facebook spam that fails SPF because it's being 
> forged, then a rule that checks SPF_FAIL *IF* the mail claims to be from 
> Facebook, and adds a point or two, would be more reasonable.
> 
Facebook dkim signs all their emails with the domain facebookmail.com, so you 
may have better luck using the ADSP rules...


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