On 11/07/2012 10:36 PM, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote:
> On 11/07, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>> Sorry, I was a little rude. But saying that she shouldn't put her job
>> title anywhere in an email, ever, is ridiculous. 
> 
> Certainly.
> 
>> The inputs (spam, ham)
>> to the classifier are assumed god-given; and the classification needs to
>> reflect the data, not the other way around.
> 
> If "the classifier" is spamassassin, and "The inputs" are the spam
> and ham data provided via masscheck, then... the scores provided via
> sa-update *do* reflect the data.  So I'm not sure what you mean.
> 
> The ideal rule scores are chosen to cause one false positive (ham flagged
> as spam) in every 2,500 hams, while maximizing the number of spams
> correctly flagged as spams.  With so few hams hitting this rule in the
> masscheck corpora, we're way below that threshold based on the data we
> have.
> 

I wrote that before I saw your clarification, sorry again for coming off
as a jerk. Ignore it.


>> This is my fault, of course, but I'm not allowed to mass-check this
>> stuff. It's ongoing legal correspondence.
> 
> Er, what?  You're not allowed to provide a list of which rules hit each
> of your emails?  Or you're not allowed to run a program on your emails
> that isn't spamassassin?  Or did I just not put "This does not require
> sending us your email" in bold enough times on the masscheck page?
> 

This is a client of ours (a law firm) and not the company that I work
for. *I* know there's probably nothing sensitive in there, but just to
cover my ass I'd need to get permission to send the results off-site.
>From their perspective, it's just simpler to say no: it's not worth the
time or effort to even think about if there's a minute chance of it
coming back to bite them legally.

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