On 8/6/2012 8:01 AM, Benny Pedersen wrote:
> Den 2012-08-05 20:30, Michael Scheidell skrev:
> 
>>> X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=4.8 required=10.0
>>>     tests=FROM_12LTRDOM,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS,URI_HEX
>> default is 5.0, not 10.0
> 
> why did ASF change it ?, did thay only change reguired ? :=)
> 
>>> as you see there is long way to 10
>> .2 points to go to 5.0
> 
> irrelevant on ASF
> 
>> score FROM_12LTRDOM                         0.099 3.499 0.099 3.499
>> is a HUGE difference, any score over 2.75 points should be suspect.
> 
> spamassassin is opensource, scores is not hardcoded
> 
> i think what is more needed is just more comiters with ham and spam to
> the public corpus scores is generated from, dont fight rules, change
> scores if one is not comitter
> 
> this rule does not hit ham here
> 

Thanks for the replies thus far.

Benny, it bears mention that not all of ASF's servers/mailing lists are
configured the same way.

The Apache HTTP Server mailing list requires 5.0. My best guess is that
they cranked-up the threshold for the SpamAssassin mailing list because,
by nature, the discussion contains a lot of "spammy" content and
false-positives were becoming a problem.

The fact that SpamAssassin is open-source is what's irrelevant; I have
no control over how ASF configures its servers, and therefore no ability
to disable the ridiculous 12-letter-domain check. ASF would have to
change its configuration if my messages are to be accepted.

Better still would be to remove this "feature" from SpamAssassin
altogether, as it is completely useless. That way, the problem would
disappear as soon as ASF updates to a version of SpamAssassin in which
the 12-letter-domain check is removed.

The fact is that nobody has articulated the rationale behind the
12-letter-domain check speaks for itself. If a rule is deemed to be
useless, why is it not removed? It is wasting CPU cycles and affecting
genuine ASF mailing list subscribers adversely (by rejecting their
messages without basis). Further, it's not as though ASF's servers are
the only ones using FROM_12LTRDOM; this ridiculous issue is affecting my
ability to communicate across the Internet at large.

Given that ASF has no other public support channel, and no way to
contact anybody to request that the filters be adjusted, what choice do
I have beyond pushing to have the software modified?

Thank you,

-Ben

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