At 3/30/2012 03:32 AM, Michael Scheidell wrote:
On 3/30/12 2:26 AM, Dave Warren wrote:
I'd argue that their inability to offer a functional opt-out is
bordering on spam-support.
months ago, it was non functional (you needed to join, which gave
them permission to spam you in order to opt-out)
they finally (and I hope it was my constant bitching about it) that
they finally STARTED with the 'easy opt-out'.
From a OCD perspective, I might have just dragged them into the
'report spam' folder (sends to DCC/RAZOR/SPAMCOP) and be done with
it if they had (if they ever do) add the full physical address of
the sender (who is the sender? linkedin? or the guy who loaded up
all the @FreeBSD.org addresses harvested from the developers web site?)
So, no, this isn't an SA issue per say, but I did want to mention
that they look like they finally fixed the easy opt-out. one click,
leave the checkbox, hit 'apply', and they TELL you that you are opted out.
so, they fixed that (still say that if RP gets paid to certify an
easily abused system, then the score should not be -3.0).
and, that score itself is arbitrary, added because its pretty
difficult to qualify a corpus of spammy like emails and decide which
ones you wanted or not.
I am talking about the whole RP/IADB group of rules in general.
Some human being decided on the -3.0 score.
Michael (et all) -
Please excuse if this perpetuates an OT discussion, but I do not
believe Linked-In has changed anything other than their presentation
of how to submit an op-out request. Their procedures still require
you to give them a log-in with all the opportunities to retrieve
cookies just like they always did. The exception is if you are a
registered user of Linked-In and have their cookies on your computer,
then the 'opt-out' request operates on your registered email address.
If this is confusing, here is a simple example. I am being spammed
by Linked-In at a number of Reflector/List-Serve addresses (the
actual list address). I can only assume they hi-jacked one or more
individual address books in order to obtain the list addresses.
Clicking on their 'easy opt-out' link apparently does not pass the
address to which the spam was sent. Instead, if you are a registered
user with Linked-In identity cookies, the 'opt-out' process will do
(whatever it does) in respect to your email membership and not the
address that is being spammed.
The bottom line is that Linked-In is definitely a source of spam that
you cannot control, and I believe they should be labeled as such
until they fix their procedures for having an address removed.
One list manager's opinion.
- JimF
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