Ah, that would make a difference.  Carry on!

Ted

On 11/29/2011 3:02 AM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
A note for those unfamiliar with GCI that these are 13 to 17 year old
kids getting an introduction to open source. Thanks for the feedback!
Regards,
KAM

Ted Mittelstaedt <t...@ipinc.net> wrote:

    Well, here's my $0.02

    For starters, is it realistic to think that someone charged with
    implementing spamassassin on a mailserver does not know what spam is?
    The first 2 sections are fluff and would be best replaced by a link to
    wikipedia's spam entry, along with the warning "if you need to
    read wikipedia to figure out what spam is you shouldn't be installing
    spamassassin"

    The 3rd section can be replaced with something saying:

    for the purposes of this document the following definitions are
    used:

    fp - yadda yadda yadda
    fn - yadda yadda yadda
    greylist - yadda yadda yadda

    in the shortest sentences you can write.

    The real beginning of the document should start with "what is
    spamassassin"

    dkim does not belong in the "how sa works" overview

    apple osx section is almost
    meaningless.  Any osx server admin knows
    they have to go under the hood to the osx command line to do anything
    with their server.  I'm not really sure why you have that in there
    because you don't have any other distribution-specific info it appears.

    Perhaps if you put several sections dealing with distro-specific
    stuff that might be better to put the OSX stuff in.

    vi is not really a good editor to tell a newbie to use.  (I use
    vi myself exclusively)  There are easier editors for newbies
    I get that probably you prefer vi and there's nothing wrong with
    mentioning it but you shouldn't seem as though it's a requirement.

    smartypants jokes telling people to block 0.0.0.0 to255.255.255.255  
<http://255.255.255.255>
    are not appropriate either.  I guarentee there will be newbies who
    won't get the joke and will actually try to do this.  Also this
    misses the fact that a lot of mailservers
    nowadays
    are dual-stacked and run both IPv4 and IPv6.

    My personal preference for writing "crash courses" is to pick a
    specific *nix distribution and then detail an install on that.
    There are many small details that are critical to get right to
    have a successful installation, but you can't include these in
    a giant crash course that covers all the major distros.  Generally
    people read these wanting to get something up and running quick
    so they need the specific info

    SA isn't really useful by itself it has to be run by something.
    A lot of people use procmail to call SA on mail and you need to
    detail that method.  It also would help to detail calling SA with
    spamass milter although that is sendmail specific so it may
    not apply to all distros.  And it would be a good thing to cover using a
    front end quarantine manager like mailscanner although not to
    go in depth since these typically are rather!
       complex
    to get
    working.

    Ted

    On 11/28/2011 10:28 PM, antiamoeba wrote:
    >
    >  Hi,
    >  I'm currently working on a crash course for administrators as part of 
Google
    >  Code-in. I would really appreciate it if you could provide any feedback 
for
    >  this project. This is still a big work in process and multiple 
definitions
    >  still need to be added/revised. Please let me know if you have any
    >  suggestions or if I have understood anything wrong. I've attached a pdf 
and
    >  a word document.
    >
    >  Thanks,
    >  antiamoeba
    >
    >
    >  http://old.nabble.com/file/p32879895/SpamAssassin.pdf  SpamAssassin.pdf
    >  http://old.nabble.com/file/p32879895/SpamAssassin.docx  SpamAssassin.docx

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