>> 
>> I have a friend that puts out a 'barter' list.  He acts as a 
>> clearinghouse for some equipment wholesalers.
>> 
>> He has been fighting getting tagged as spamming for some time and 
>> finally came to me for help.  I had helped some, but finally told him to 
>> add me to his distribution (he uses BCC lists; he has ~2000 
>> wholesalers).  I have spamassassin running with postfix and pretty much 
>> a default setup, and of course his notes got tagged as spam.  Below is 
>> what I pulled out of the headers.  Were do I go to learn what these mean 
>> and what he can do to 'clean up' his messages?
>> 
>> Oh, and I am looking at setting up a mailman server for him as an 
>> announce list.
>> 
>> Yes, score=10.206 tagged_above=2 required=4    tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, 
>> EXCUSE_REMOVE=3.299, FILL_THIS_FORM=0.001,    FILL_THIS_FORM_LONG=3.404, 
>> HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, LOTS_OF_MONEY=0.001,    MANY_SPAN_IN_TEXT=2.7, 
>> RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=no
>> 
>> Yes, score=8.856 tagged_above=2 required=4 tests=[AWL=1.350,    
>> BAYES_50=0.8, EXCUSE_REMOVE=3.299, FILL_THIS_FORM=0.001,    
>> FILL_THIS_FORM_LONG=3.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, LOTS_OF_MONEY=0.001,    
>> RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=no
>> 

Hi,

it seems your friend is putting stuff on the newsletter that SA considers as
signs of commercial mass mails
EXCUSE_REMOVE=3.299
FILL_THIS_FORM_LONG=3.404

Your friend is probably doing right (the REMOVE bit might be required by law)
Maybe the "fill_this_form" part could be avoided, by directing the reader to
a website instead

It is the old dilemma: people subscribe to a newsletter and then let some system
(be it spam filter, or some challenge-response idiocy) intercept them

The idea to replace Bcc lists is perfect

Wolfgang Hamann

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