On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:59, Warren Togami Jr. <wtog...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 1/17/2011 11:46 PM, Jeff Chan wrote:
>>
>> So a couple points:
>>
>> 1.  Subscribing to lists opens up lots of grey areas including
>> the above.
>>
>> 2.  Some of the areas are very difficult to resolve into spam or
>> ham.  Some more aggressive anti-spammers may say all of the above
>> is spam, but others may disagree, and the mail may be legal.
>>
>> Before anyone accuses me of being in favor of spammers, please be
>> aware that I am personally highly against any of these unethical
>> practices, but when essentially making decisions for others, one
>> needs to be very careful and consider whether there may be legitimate,
>> ethical, legal or even wanted uses of such things.  One person's
>> ham may be another persons spam, and vice versa.  However, most
>> people don't want the stuff bots send.
>>
>> The issue is complex, and there are many deliverability, security
>> and anti-spam companies and organizations that struggle with these
>> issues every day.  Maintaining accurate ham and spam corpora and
>> making policies for what belongs in which category is trivial in
>> some easy cases like bot pill spam, but non-trivial in other
>> cases.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jeff C.
>
> I appreciate the nuanced feedback but I have thought of similar
> considerations.  I believe the following will help to avoid ambiguity and
> legal issues.
>
> * Yes, we cannot be 100% sure our opt-in was only for that particular site
> and not their "partners".  But in any case automatic ham trapped mail will
> be only the mail branded by the subscribed provider, because that is the
> only mail we know for sure was opted-in.  Anything else is kept separate for
> later analysis.
>
> * If clearly spammy other mail arrives at a particular address, the original
> subscription can be unsubscribed and the continued flow monitored.  That
> address could then be discarded.

+1 to those. tagged addressing makes this easy to implement (and track).
I use this approach on a very small scale for a small number of ham newsletters
in my own corpus...

--j.

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