On Wed, 2010-12-01 at 16:17 -0500, David F. Skoll wrote:
> Challenge-Response systems are evil.  I never reply to challenges and I
> typically blacklist systems that send them.

Personally, I have *never* received a legit C/R. Every single one that
ended up on my machines have been in response to spam sent with a forged
sender address.

Hardly distinguishable from backscatter. And in fact, all samples I have
are dating back from times when certain addresses have received quite a
lot of that blow-back spam.


> There's a fundamental economic principle at play: If you make it harder
> for spammers to send spam, then you make it less convenient to send email
> to someone you've never written to before.  There is simply no way around
> that.
> 
> Rather than destroying email (its killer feature is *precisely* the
> ability to dash off a note to someone new) by making it harder to send
> spam, viable anti-spam solutions make it less likely that spam will be
> received.  Yes, this is costly and annoying, but it's the price we pay
> for the convenience of email.

Very true, David. Spam filtering helps. Which, coincidentally, probably
is what we all are here for. ;)

Both, backscatter as well as C/R as a specific form of backscatter [1]
are evil. I have refused to answer questions on this very list before,
when it became obvious the OP uses or considers C/R -- unless he thought
about that a second time. I will continue to do so.


[1] Its stated purpose is to reduce spam, by sending out a challenge to
    legit first-time senders -- as well as forged addresses, mind you!
    That is *deliberately* spamming [2] innocent bystanders.

[2] I don't use that term lightly. Anyone who has sufficient knowledge
    of the problem to create such beast, also knows about address
    forgery. He knows, he turns the recipient's problem into a
    bystander's problem.

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main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i<l;i++){ i%8? c<<=1:
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