I realise that my English isn't that good, but I think what I've written is 
pretty clear.

I never disputed the fact the rules were there. If you look at my original 
post, I say 'turned off', not 'removed'.

I never said I wanted them for Meta rules, I asked for best way to turn then 
back on again (eventually! :). I am completely open minded re- what 'best' may 
be ... in fact, the whole point of my post was to discover what folks consider 
the best option to be.

I agree that simply pasting parts of rule files and manuals into your reply is 
a waste to the list's time ... the least you can expect folks to do is their 
own basic research, which I have done. But I never asked you or anyone else to 
do spoon-feed me in this way.

I merely asked for high-level direction/opinion ... call it what you will.

I think that any confusion that has been created is due to you putting words 
into my mouth, reading unintended things between the lines, and making too many 
assumptions about me personally ... like I can't be bothered to look through 
rule files, and 'one doesn't understand the bad things implied'.

I'm guessing you'll require the last word in this exchange, so maybe you could 
address one technical issue in the process ... Mr Pederson has suggested that 
META's might be the way to go, rather than reinstating individual rules. I tend 
towards this opinion myself, but remain open minded. Do you have a technical 
view on this subject?

Thanks again for your time sir.

-----Original Message-----
From: Karsten Bräckelmann [mailto:guent...@rudersport.de] 
Sent: 23 August 2010 17:11
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: RE: abuse/postmaster lists at RFC-Ignorant.org

On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 10:05 +0100, s...@yacc.co.uk wrote:
> > So, no, I guess I'd better not post these trivial rules in public. The
> > above hints are a dead give-away already.
> 
> Absolutely not - to do so would be patronising beyond words!

Not a dead give-away, you mean? I'm slightly confused. Maybe you
shouldn't have snipped the most important part from my previous post.

 "The rules even *do* exist in the latest 3.3 rule-set. They just happen
  to not score."

Since you apparently want them for meta rules, that's exactly what they
are there for. As I said, they still do exist. The rule names did not
even change, other than adding the special non-scoring double-underscore
prefix.

So, mind grepping for the rules!?


-- 
char *t="\10pse\0r\0dtu...@ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4";
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i<l;i++){ i%8? c<<=1:
(c=*++x); c&128 && (s+=h); if (!(h>>=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}

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