On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 07:55 -0600, Dennis B. Hopp wrote:
> > 1)  Spammers rotate sender addresses and hijacked account info more 
> > often than most of us change our underwear.  An account *may* get 
> > reused;  chances are it'll be months before it does, and the spammers 
> > will have rotated through hundreds or thousands of others - both 
> > phish-cracked and those set up just to send their junk.  Blacklisting a 
> > sender is reduced to blocking the persistent friend-of-a-friend who 
> > refuses to remove you from the endless stream of chain-forwards, and 
> > legitimate-but-totally-clueless mailing list operators who can't figure 
> > out how to unsubscribe you from their list.  :(
> > 
> > 2)  You noted originally that these appear to be fully legitimate 
> > freemail accounts, legitimately used in the past to correspond with your 
> > customers/clients, that have been compromised and then used to send 
> > spam.  How do you propose to still allow the legitimate account holders 
> > to email your clients if you blacklist the sender?
> > 
> 
> I don't want to blacklist the address, hence the reason why in my
> original e-mail I said "other then blacklisting".  I know blacklisting
> would block these bogus e-mails as well as legit e-mails as soon as the
> clients get access back (they currently don't have access to their
> accounts because their passwords have been changed).  
> 
> 
> > 
> > Martin's suggestion followup should point you in the right direction. 
> > Sets of phrase rules (how similar are these messages?  do you have ten 
> > or fifteen you can compare sentence-by-sentence?) with low scores will 
> > likely help some too.  Meta rules that bump the score up depending on 
> > how many phrases hit, or phrase+mismatched-sender/reply also work 
> > tolerably well on this class of spam... if you can get enough samples to 
> > build a complete enough set of phrase rules.
> 
> I'm going to look at what Martin suggested and compare it to what
> samples I have.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> --Dennis
> 
Don't miss the major key in the body - that is 'Western Union'. I don't
know how much legitimate business you do with WU (or Moneygram for that
matter) but it may well be worthy of a half decent score.

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