On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 7:53 PM, John Hardin <jhar...@impsec.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Jan 2010, ram wrote:
>
>  On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:54 AM, John Hardin <jhar...@impsec.org> wrote:
>>
>>  On Wed, 27 Jan 2010, ram wrote:
>>>
>>> it works, but i see most of the mails are tagged as SPAM.
>>>
>>> A little more detail, please: Are you complaining about seeing lots of
>>> false positives? Or are you complaining about seeing lots of properly
>>> classified spams that are being delivered to your mailbox when you don't
>>> want them to be delivered to your mailbox?
>>>
>>> If the former, and both those samples were from false positives, then
>>> your bayes appears to need retraining.
>>>
>>
>> yes they are false positive
>>
>> even person sending just simple mail "hi how are you"
>> its treating as spam and not able send mail and it is rejecting
>> both the sides, outgoing and incoming
>>
>
>

Hi thanks for your quick responce


some of my information i have changed like ip address and domain names


> Can you post the complete headers from such an inbound false positive?


here is the simple mail requested locally asking for new mailID

Return-Path: sen...@domain.com <sen...@domain.com>
Delivered-To: t...@domain.com
X-Spam-Flag: YES
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mail.sol.net.in
X-Spam-Level: *****
X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=5.6 required=5.0 tests=DEAR_SOMETHING,
 FH_DATE_PAST_20XX,NO_RELAYS autolearn=no version=3.2.5
X-Spam-Report:
 *  3.4 FH_DATE_PAST_20XX The date is grossly in the future.
 * -0.0 NO_RELAYS Informational: message was not relayed via SMTP
 *  2.2 DEAR_SOMETHING BODY: Contains 'Dear (something)'
Received: (qmail 8836 invoked by uid 48); 27 Jan 2010 14:33:13 +0530
To: t...@domain.com
Subject: [SPAM] mailid
MIME-Version: 1.0
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:33:13 +0530
From: sen...@domain.com
Message-ID: <309f6a80cf3833e2a47b801cf4b93...@domain.com>
X-Sender: sen...@domain.com
User-Agent: Company Webmail/0.3.1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
X-Spam-Prev-Subject: mailid

Or do you have simscan configured to completely delete spams rather than
quarantining them?
@400000004b610d3003da07d4 simscan:[19879]:SPAM REJECT
(7.00/5.00):3.3421s:[SPAM] mail:x.x.x.211:f...@domain.com:t...@domain.com

even simple mail it hits 3.4

@400000004b5db6be10acf584 simscan:[10034]:CLEAN (3.40/5.00):5.4026s:Re_ mail
from:x.x.x.10:send...@domain.com:recei...@yahoo.com

this is mail sent from yahoo to my domain.com

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at yahoo.com.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<u...@domain.com>:
(MYSERVERIP) failed after I sent the message.
Remote host said: 554 Your email is considered spam (5.10 spam-hits)

--- Below this line is a copy of the message.

Return-Path: <u...@yahoo.com <u...@yahoo.com>>
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From: hari <u...@yahoo.com <u...@yahoo.com>>
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>
> What is the output from "sa-learn --dump magic" ?
>

0.000          0          3          0  non-token data: bayes db version
0.000          0          0          0  non-token data: nspam
0.000          0          0          0  non-token data: nham
0.000          0          0          0  non-token data: ntokens
0.000          0          0          0  non-token data: oldest atime
0.000          0          0          0  non-token data: newest atime
0.000          0          0          0  non-token data: last journal sync
atime
0.000          0          0          0  non-token data: last expiry atime
0.000          0          0          0  non-token data: last expire atime
delta
0.000          0          0          0  non-token data: last expire
reduction count



>
> How are you training Bayes currently?
>

its recently installed, we have not yet gone till that level

>
> Did you retain your training corpora?


no



appriciate kind help

Ram

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