On Wednesday 16 December 2009, Benny Pedersen wrote:
>On ons 16 dec 2009 16:49:52 CET, Charles Gregory wrote
>
>> On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Chris Hoogendyk wrote:
>>> Marc Perkel wrote:
>>>> http://www.vintage-computer.com/asr33.shtml
>>>
>>> There was actually a time when I had one of those in my house.
>>
>> For your amusement:
>>
>> I still have my old Commodore 64 and 1541 drive sitting in the basement.
>
And I still have several coco's, including a coco3 in the basement that all 
boots up with a flick of the power switch.

>my commodore 128 have basic 7.0 copyrighted from microsoft, i bet bill
>gates have seen one of them with a reu 1750 and sayed the final words
>of 640k ram ougth to be enough for anyone :)
>
>i still have 8bit computers that works, and also cpm where i have
>pascal, fortran, autocad wordstar, you name it, best of all it works !

No cpm here, but what was once os-9, now nitros-9 because we changed the cpu 
to a hitachi 6309, cmos & smarter, then re-wrote os-9.  Both levels.

>my nokia e51 have frodo c64 emulator that emulate all what a 64 & 1541
>can do if one have the hardware, apple iphones have a c64 app aswell
>now, so no excuse for not have fun anymore :)
>
>c128 have 1M of mem page mapped in 64k pages, it realy have mmu, so it
>can adress one whole meg of mem, fun part is that if i start cpm on
>this, the m drive have 4 times more disk space then the system disks :)

My coco3 has 2 megs, in 8k pages, 64k at a time, instant switch to a 
different map of 64k, and just a few microseconds to remap any of that 2 megs 
into the 64k that is visible.

>> One year my daughter's school had a project to construct exhibits
>> for a show called 'working class treasures' for the local Worker's
>> Heritage Museum. The idea was to put on display 'precious'
>> possesions from their parents' childhood. Baseballs, old toys,
>> favorite tools, whatever.
>>
>> Well, the only thing I had of any 'meaning' to me was my C-64. So
>> she put that in her exhibit.
>>
>> So yes, my Commodore 64 has actually been displayed in a museum.
>> Not just figuratively, but *literally* a 'museum piece'. :)
>
>kids need to know how little is needed to do simple things, and when
>thay have seen it, thay will code much better if thay get some jobs
>that use there knowledge

I agree Benny. To demo that, I have the old coco2 that acted like a $20,000 
dollar Grass Valley Group E-Disk for the production video switchers in the 
300 series they made about 20 years ago.  For $245 worth of stuff, its 4x 
faster and 100x more friendly for the tech directors to use than the $20k GVG 
package was.

Coding in assembly for one of those is something I can still do, I just 
rewrote the mouse driver which was suffering from a huge lack of tlc.

When someone comes over who can be impressed, I go boot the coco3 up, then 
come back to this linux box, and over a bluetooth serial emulation, log into 
it with minicom.  Just to impress the frogs of course.

>sorry to be OT

There must be a Senor Wences line here someplace, but I'll have to plead 
oldtimers.

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