> -----Original Message-----
> From: --[ UxBoD ]-- [mailto:ux...@splatnix.net]
> Sent: Monday, 14 September 2009 11:27 p.m.
> To: Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Non scoring 'Bank Deposit' spam
> 
> ----- "Matus UHLAR - fantomas" <uh...@fantomas.sk> wrote:
> 
> | > > > > On 12-Sep-2009, at 10:27, Clunk Werclick wrote:
> | > > > > > I disagree. It can do as much harm as good. My own view and
> | > > > > > observation from the past have rendered it pointless in my
> | context. It
> | > > > > > adds latency, is easily poisoned and rarely makes much
> | difference to
> | > > > > > the score. I do appreciate some people like it, but my own
> | view is
> | > > > > > spam has moved on beyond the point of it being useful.
> | > >
> | > > > On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 16:37 -0600, LuKreme wrote:
> | > > > > Facts? we don't need no pesky facts. You are very
> | misinformed.
> | > >
> | > > On 14.09.09 08:48, Clunk Werclick wrote:
> | > > > Myself, I've seen some very poor Bayesian databases where users
> | have
> | > > > been allowed to categorize mail as spam-v-ham. One company who
> | deal with
> | > > > Pharmaceuticals for famine relief in Uganda and other poor
> | African
> | > > > countries found bayes to mess with their core mail to a point
> | that made
> | > > > it worthless in their context.
> |
> | > On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 11:46 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
> | > > I would say that is a result of badly trained BAYES, not fgrom
> its
> | bad
> | > > design.
> |
> | On 14.09.09 12:06, Clunk Werclick wrote:
> | > The *issue* with bayes is it *can* have user input. Would you trust
> | your
> | > users influencing system wide policy?
> |
> | That only happens if you allow your users to train system-wide BAYES.
> | However this is usually also called "misconfiguration" - in common
> | situations either users have their own bayes databases, or they can't
> | train
> | the site-wide one.
> |
> | > > If you insist on not using bayes, just because it can be
> | mistrained,
> | > > better don't use any configurable software, because _everything_
> | > > configurable will go wrong if miscongured.
> |
> | > I've already stated I'll try it. So read the fucking follow up
> | before
> | > shouting your thick foreign mouth off you stupid cunt!
> |
> | I have read your previous posts, I only wanted to react on some of
> | your
> | "arguments".

> I would post the private email I received from Clunk but I will not
> lower myself or expose the list to such vulgarity.
> 

Why not? Everyone else seems to be able to get away with it!

M.

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