>> On 21.07.09 19:18, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz wrote:
>>> Ok, here is my doubt.  I know who are Pyzor and DCC, and I really 
>>> convinced that a statistic test is a must to detect spam. But my 
>>> doubt is next:
>>> - It is good to have both tests or just one?

> Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
>> listing in DCC means that the spam was received many times by many users on
>> the net. Listing in RAZOR/PYZOR means that many users have reported it as
>> spam, so I would ask how is it possible that such mail got listed.
>> Yes, see my comment above for PYZOR...

On 22.07.09 07:23, Michael Scheidell wrote:
> Minor correction, DCC measures BULK email, not necessarily spam, which  
> is one good reason to use razor also.
> (and a good reason to use DCC!)

which was exactly what I wanted to say, i just should have choosen better
wording :)

> The way DCC works is automatic (unless sender is whitelisted), the  
> checksums or headers and paragraphs are checked against a database of a  
> 40 Million checksum database.  the act if CHECKING the checksum adds it  
> (and if you are using the commercial version, last untrusted ip) to the  
> database.

to be more precise, DCC servers should keep checksums of e-mail received in
the past, configurable per server.

> Since no human involved.  The danger of 'false positives' are if you use  
> DCC to block 'spam' when you are blocking 'bulk' email, and you really  
> should whitelist any mailing lists yo belong to.  Just to make things  
> faster and less prone to FP's.

and there are other types of bulk e-mail, even those prople tend to send to
others (funny messages etc). That's why DCC should not (imho) be used at
SMTP time alone.
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