Thanks for your reply, René,
René Berber wrote:
The easy way is really easy: Install base Cygwin, then install perl and
gcc (version 3.x or 4.x) for Cygwin (using the same installer:
http://cygwin.com/setup-1.7.exe). Use cpan shell and 'install
spamassassin' ... that will pull all the dependencies (is a very long
install, one of those where you only have to answer 'yes' to
everything). You still have to configure SA, the usual way, and at that
point you have a working spamassassin command;
I can handle that much ok so far, assuming no dependency installs fail.
Then I have no idea what to do, except trying to 'force them' which may
not work properly.
I need the ability for SA to connect to SSL connections as well as
insecure ones, so I don't know if I have to install extra bits for that,
maybe including OpenSSL and Stunnel on Cygwin. Again, I have seen bits
and pieces implying this may be the case.
spamd/spamc need more
setting up, in Cygwin you use cygrunsrv to configure and install
services, spamd is enabled as a service with that.
I've yet to grasp the purpose of SpamC and/or SpamD on Windows in my
kind of scenario. I've seen mention of them a lot in my web searches,
but all I think I have yet grasped is that SpamC makes the mail
filtering faster due to a multi threaded approach at calling SA. Have I
got that right?
Now, the above procedure I don't think it installs DCC and Razor (is
that even used anymore?), I never used those plugins, but I used others
and they are just as easy to install.
If DCC and Razor no longer exist, especially for free, which other
look-up / blacklist methods are recommended for SA? My plan had/has
using DCC and Razor as a central benefit to it all, to avoid just naive
bayesian training alone.
There are more tools you'll need, like cron, bind, and perhaps others I
don't recall. The point being if you are not a sys admin or developer
this gets more confusing as you progress; yes there are guides,
articles, and books, but perhaps is overkill for what you really want.
The second part of your question shows you don't have a clear idea of
what to do with SA, procmail is a tool used if you run a mail server,
fetchmail is a tool used if you don't (but fetch your mail from other
server(s)). With both tools the idea is to run spamassassin or spamc on
each message, then use the added headers in your mail client; I haven't
used them, I had exim which has support for using spamd (and clamd).
I know what I want to do with SA, but I'm indeed not clear on how to
achieve it, once having successfully installed the latest SA with
necessary modules/plugins. I would need to explore mail piping and
retrieval methods in much detail, probably more elsewhere than on here.
You need to make a plan that solves your specific needs. I still see
SpamAware as a better choice, it beats SAWin which anyway was intended
to be used on mail servers not mail clients, the POP3 proxy is an
independent tool, not really needed if you have a proper plugin.
The trouble is, I really am not keen on using Outlook Express to be able
to use SpamAware. The Thunderbird spinoff seems to be
discontinued/incomplete, as I think you said. I'm not fixated on keeping
Thunderbird, and would happily move to another free client if it
incorporated junk detection using online lookups. I'm aware of something
called NoSpamToday but I read it runs on a Java Runtime Environment and
reviews say it is very cumbersome and laggy. I think I mean NoSpamToday,
anyway; I'm just typing this from memory.
So where does this leave me at the moment ... probably, as expected,
still somewhat out of my depth with much work ahead, doesn't it ? I
suspect I will have to shortly conclude this whole project is really a
non starter for me, and put it back in its box. Then just use TB and
Popfile until the end of time.
Or indeed until a mystical time when a new XP/Vista desktop
SAproxy/client gets made.
:)
Lee
